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[00:01:04] Speaker C: Welcome, everybody, to my show. I'm Legis and this is my show. Oh, I mean our show.
[00:01:11] Speaker D: I'm going to have to bestie Chandler because he's hilarious. I hate these selections. I barf on all of them.
[00:01:20] Speaker E: I don't know. I have this weird thing that I do, but I also associate it with sleeping.
[00:01:24] Speaker D: But when you climbed up the stairs, I literally would have to army shuffle into it.
[00:01:28] Speaker F: Thought you could meditate?
No, you can't.
[00:01:32] Speaker G: Through you. Challenge.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: You ready, guys? Let's do this.
[00:01:40] Speaker G: Express yourself. Share the wealth. Hold on to your bookmark. We're off the shelf. Express yourself. It's good for your health. Book interrupted is off the shelf.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Welcome to book Interrupted, a book club for busy people to connect and one that celebrates life's interruptions.
[00:02:04] Speaker C: The following episode is off the shelf. Brace yourself. Welcome, everybody, to my show. I'm Legis and this is my show. Oh, I mean our show.
[00:02:18] Speaker G: Are you ready? Are you ready? Oh my God. Don't forget about me. I'm right here. Let the boss talk. Let the boss talk. All right.
[00:02:26] Speaker C: Are you ready? This is my assistant.
[00:02:28] Speaker G: Oops.
[00:02:29] Speaker C: I mean co host Carolee.
[00:02:31] Speaker G: Go ahead. Hello. Caroly here. Hello, everyone. Good morning, Lee. Jess. Good morning.
[00:02:38] Speaker C: Morning, care. See you've been into the sauce a bit this morning already.
[00:02:43] Speaker G: Do I stop?
Oh, Lee. Welcome, everyone. Welcome.
Boy, do we have an exciting show today, don't we? It's a good one. It's a good one. We have so many celebrity guests with us, and we're going to play one of my favorite reality quiz show games I mean, really, do we need another reality game show? All right, let the boss talk. Let the boss talk. Let the boss talk.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: Okay, so the game today, you've probably.
[00:03:16] Speaker G: Heard of it, is called who do I want to.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: Oh, no, Caroly, that's for your private life.
[00:03:24] Speaker G: Oh, babe. God damn. I hate my private life.
[00:03:28] Speaker C: This is awkward. This is awkward. Moving on. It's called bestie, boink, battle, barf. You've all heard of it. You've seen the show. We're very famous. Let's get started. Let's go ahead, introduce our guest.
[00:03:40] Speaker G: My pleasure. My pleasure. So many celebrities with us today. Now, is that Sarah or pretty woman? I think it's pretty woman. Just look at you. Julia Roberts, you slut. I love it. I love it. And who else do we have with us here, Leech? It looks like Meredith. Or is that carrot top?
[00:04:03] Speaker C: Carrot top.
[00:04:04] Speaker G: Flaming redhead. You're on fire. On fire.
[00:04:08] Speaker E: Glad to have you.
[00:04:08] Speaker G: Glad to have you with someone else down there. Who's that down there? Is that Kim or.
[00:04:15] Speaker C: No?
[00:04:16] Speaker G: Are we in the presence of Darth Vader? Hello, Darth. How are you? That's Lord Vader to you.
[00:04:24] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:04:25] Speaker G: Oh, my.
Terrifying. And last but not least, let us not forget Lindsay. She's so famous. She's in a limo on her way here right now. Thank you for joining us. She's got star power. She's late. She's in a car. She's in a limo.
[00:04:43] Speaker C: She has a driver.
[00:04:44] Speaker G: I love it. Just like me.
[00:04:46] Speaker C: Just like me and my wife. You know, we get taken care of. People take us places. Let's get started. Let's do this game.
[00:04:52] Speaker G: Are you ready? Here we go.
[00:04:54] Speaker C: Some Jimmy's, some Jimmy's, some Jimmy's. Who would you like to blink?
[00:04:58] Speaker G: Who would you like to be? Who would you Barf? Who would you battle? I'm looking at you. I'll tell you. All right, Kira Lee, that's enough.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Stay out of it.
[00:05:08] Speaker G: Let the boss talk. Let's go.
[00:05:10] Speaker C: Julia Roberts of Jim Carrey, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and Jim Morrison. Give us your breakdown. Who would be your bestie?
[00:05:20] Speaker D: My bestie would be Jimmy Fallon.
[00:05:25] Speaker G: Oh, come on. I'm on the edge of my seat. Okay.
[00:05:27] Speaker D: Jimmy Kimmel would be.
Oh, I don't know.
[00:05:31] Speaker G: Battle.
[00:05:34] Speaker D: Jim Carrey, I think would probably be.
[00:05:37] Speaker G: What's the other ones?
[00:05:39] Speaker D: Sorry, I've already lost it.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: Jim Morrison or Jim Carrey? We all want to know. Who are you going to blink?
[00:05:45] Speaker G: Who is it?
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Who am I going to blink?
[00:05:47] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh.
[00:05:47] Speaker G: I guess I'll give you my answer, I guess. Morrison.
[00:05:52] Speaker D: He's pretty dead.
[00:05:53] Speaker G: Morrison? Very sexual.
[00:05:56] Speaker C: Very sexual. Julia Roberts.
[00:05:59] Speaker G: We know why you got that part. And then what's the last one again? Barf.
[00:06:02] Speaker C: Barf on. Who are you barfing on?
[00:06:04] Speaker D: Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey?
[00:06:05] Speaker G: Oh, that's so hard. He's a funny guy.
[00:06:07] Speaker D: Yeah, okay. Jim Carrey. He would probably think it's funny. He'd probably barf back.
[00:06:10] Speaker C: He'll forgive you.
[00:06:12] Speaker G: Oh, my God, he will. With a funny joke. It happens. It happens. Why don't you take on the next one? Give the guest I've loved you. All right. I'm going to be calling upon two guests to answer this question. Give this round to Kim and Carrot top. Shall we? Darth, are you ready? We're going to be looking at the show friends. Remember that show?
All right, for starters, carrot top. Let's have you weigh in on Joey, Ross, Chandler and Gunther.
I know who I'm barfing on.
Good one.
[00:06:54] Speaker D: I don't know who the last person is.
[00:06:55] Speaker E: He's the coffee shop guy.
[00:06:57] Speaker D: The coffee cup guy that was in love with Rachel.
[00:06:59] Speaker H: The waiter.
[00:06:59] Speaker D: I'll have to barf on him because I don't know who he is.
[00:07:01] Speaker C: Get him out of there.
[00:07:02] Speaker G: That's okay with me.
[00:07:04] Speaker D: He gets the barf.
[00:07:05] Speaker G: He's out.
[00:07:06] Speaker D: And I'm going to have to battle Ross. I think it'd be an easy win. Honestly.
[00:07:11] Speaker G: I'm not going to disagree.
[00:07:13] Speaker D: I'm going to have to bestie Chandler because he's hilarious. And obviously Joey. Who doesn't want to blink?
[00:07:20] Speaker G: Joey, everybody. Right? I know. I do. Your answers are predictable. I know. Totally. I know. This one already did. Now let's swing on over to Darth Vader. And we're going to focus on the ladies. So, Rachel, Phoebe, Monica and. Janice. Janice. Janice.
[00:07:43] Speaker C: I hate her. I hate her gut.
[00:07:44] Speaker G: I freaking hate her too. Give us your answer, though.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: I would barf on Janice.
[00:07:52] Speaker D: I would.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Who wouldn't boink Rachel.
[00:07:57] Speaker D: I would.
[00:08:00] Speaker G: Meet you out in the parking lot later.
[00:08:04] Speaker D: Bestie.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Phoebe in battle.
[00:08:07] Speaker D: Monica, I guess.
[00:08:08] Speaker G: Oh, goodness. All right, moving on. Moving.
All right. Bam. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready for this? I'm ready. Lee. Jess.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: Some famous cartoon fellas.
This one's for carrot top for sure. Are you ready, carrot top? Homer Simpson, Papa Smurf.
He man? Or Peter Griffin from Family Guy?
[00:08:33] Speaker G: Great character.
[00:08:35] Speaker D: I hate these selections. I barf on all of them.
[00:08:38] Speaker G: You barf on Heman.
[00:08:40] Speaker D: I barf on Heman.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: Barf on Heman.
[00:08:42] Speaker G: Okay. All right.
[00:08:43] Speaker D: Oh, boy.
He man. He's a nice guy.
[00:08:47] Speaker C: You don't want to battle him, that's for sure.
[00:08:48] Speaker D: Oh, absolutely not. I'm going to have to barf on Simpson.
[00:08:54] Speaker G: All right, okay.
[00:08:55] Speaker C: He's gross.
[00:08:56] Speaker G: I get it.
[00:08:56] Speaker D: What was the other two? Peter Griffin.
[00:08:58] Speaker C: Peter Griffin and Papa Smurf.
[00:09:05] Speaker G: I think it'll be besties of Peter.
[00:09:06] Speaker D: Griffin because it would be fun. The misadventures.
[00:09:09] Speaker G: It sure would.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: So, we know someone's going to have blue sheets tonight.
[00:09:17] Speaker G: Wait, is that boink it, Sara? Is. It? Sure is, carrot top. Now we know all your secrets.
[00:09:25] Speaker D: No, I already boinked he man.
All right, you have to battle Papa Smurf, I guess. Oh, that's easy. I guess that's fair. He's the oldest.
[00:09:33] Speaker G: Boot him.
[00:09:34] Speaker D: Yeah, just boot him. Flick him with your finger. If it was that easy, Gargamel would have had him years ago, though.
[00:09:41] Speaker G: That's true. You make a strong point.
[00:09:43] Speaker C: Make a strong point.
[00:09:46] Speaker G: All right, let's move over to you there, pretty woman. And we're going to be touching upon the category of sex in the city we love. New York. I love it, I love it, I love it.
All right, here are the four you have to choose from. We've got Samantha Jones, Carrie Bradshaw, Miranda Hobbs.
Charlote York Goldblatt.
What's your answer?
[00:10:17] Speaker D: Okay.
I guess I would boink Samantha.
[00:10:23] Speaker G: Sure.
[00:10:24] Speaker C: She looks like a good time because.
[00:10:25] Speaker D: She clearly is the best at it.
[00:10:27] Speaker G: She is.
[00:10:28] Speaker D: I would bestie Charlote. I guess I would delight battle Carrie. She would be the easiest, for sure. Easy. Easy to battle Carrie.
[00:10:42] Speaker C: I don't know. She's pretty fit.
[00:10:43] Speaker D: And then I guess I'm barfing on Miranda.
[00:10:47] Speaker G: Watch out. Miranda, watch out.
[00:10:51] Speaker C: Great, great answers. Love those answers. We're getting to know so much about you. The barf one throws me off every time it happens.
[00:10:58] Speaker G: You have to bark on someone.
[00:10:59] Speaker C: That's the game. That's the.
Ooh, this is a sexy one. Sexy one.
[00:11:04] Speaker G: This one's good. Real good. Lee, straight at Darth.
[00:11:09] Speaker C: If that is your real name. I don't know. It's questionable. So, Darth 90s supermodels. You know them? I know them. We both.
[00:11:18] Speaker G: We all know them. Yeah.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: True story. Claudia Schiffer, Naomi Campbell, Cindy Crawford. And Alinda Evangelista.
[00:11:29] Speaker G: It's kind of hard to choose a barfing one for this.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: I was going to battle Naomi Campbell at first because I know that she's quite the fighter. Scary, but maybe I'll barf on her. I don't know. And then she'd probably want to battle me anyway.
[00:11:45] Speaker G: Yeah, twofer sounds good.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: I think I'd be besties with Cindy Crawford.
[00:11:52] Speaker C: Okay, classic beauty.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: What's left? Boink.
[00:11:55] Speaker D: And. Oh, battle.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: Because I didn't actually battle Naomi Campbell.
[00:11:59] Speaker C: So Linda or Claudia?
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Guess I'll boink. Claudia. Battle Linda.
[00:12:05] Speaker G: All right. All right.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: Well, don't mess up their pretty faces, please.
[00:12:12] Speaker G: My goodness. Oh, this is onto our favorite category, Leech.
[00:12:17] Speaker C: A couple of our competitors.
[00:12:18] Speaker G: Who's going to get the bar for ammo with this one?
[00:12:21] Speaker C: They all get barfed on if you're fighting me for some ratings.
[00:12:24] Speaker G: Some ratings. Yeah.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: All right.
[00:12:26] Speaker G: Surprise. We didn't make the list. Let's go. Okay, let's do this. Talk show host Carrot top. I'm coming to you. All right, we have got Oprah, Ellen, Sally Jesse Raphael and Jerry Springer.
[00:12:43] Speaker D: Oh, you got a battle Jerry Springer. Oh, wait, you might need a barf. We're going to have to barf on Jerry Springer, I think. Yeah, sure. Let's see. Besties.
[00:12:53] Speaker G: Oprah all day.
[00:12:54] Speaker D: Who do I want to boink? I don't know anything about Sally Jesse Raphael, but those glasses makes it a.
[00:13:02] Speaker G: Spicy little dress up in the. Huh?
[00:13:06] Speaker D: Bestie in battle.
I don't know. I guess I'd be bestie with Oprah.
[00:13:11] Speaker G: Okay.
[00:13:11] Speaker D: And battle. Ellen.
[00:13:14] Speaker G: Battle. Ellen.
Battle it out with Ellen.
[00:13:18] Speaker D: I think it would be a good fight. I think it'd be well matched. Maybe it could be a joke battle.
[00:13:22] Speaker C: Could be a laugh battle.
[00:13:23] Speaker G: Eh.
[00:13:24] Speaker D: Yeah, it'd be hilarious.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Thinking it doesn't always have to be a violent battle.
[00:13:28] Speaker G: Oh, I know. Dance battle. Dance battle. Dance battle. There you go. There you go. That's great. Dance battle. Oh, of course. Yeah, that's lovely.
[00:13:38] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:13:39] Speaker G: Love that.
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Great answers. Great job, carrot top. This is great.
[00:13:44] Speaker G: We're really getting to know you guys.
[00:13:46] Speaker C: Are you ready, legendary rock stars.
I'm looking at pretty Woman.
[00:13:54] Speaker G: Yeah, we were. Yeah, we are.
[00:13:55] Speaker C: Julia Roberts, also known as Sarah. Here we go.
Michael Jackson, Prince.
[00:14:03] Speaker G: Ooh.
[00:14:04] Speaker C: Tom Petty.
[00:14:05] Speaker G: Ooh.
[00:14:06] Speaker C: And David Bowie. All lost to us now.
[00:14:10] Speaker G: How's it going to be?
[00:14:11] Speaker C: They'll never know.
[00:14:13] Speaker G: Have some fun with this. Hmm.
[00:14:15] Speaker D: We have Tom Petty, Michael Jackson, David Bowie and.
[00:14:20] Speaker G: Mm hmm.
[00:14:21] Speaker D: Okay, I think I'd point David boy.
[00:14:23] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:14:25] Speaker D: I would bestie Prince.
[00:14:28] Speaker G: Sure.
[00:14:28] Speaker D: Because that was purple rain.
[00:14:31] Speaker E: Super awesome.
[00:14:32] Speaker D: And you are a pretty woman. Sure. Yeah, I am pretty woman, after all.
Then I would barf on Michael Jackson and battle Tom Petty. That'd be great.
[00:14:48] Speaker G: Let's lock in those answers. Lock them in. Lock them in. Finger dead. Getting to know you poor Tom Petty. Oh, my God.
[00:14:56] Speaker D: He seems so chill.
He wouldn't know what hit him. He'd be like, what's going on?
[00:15:03] Speaker G: Tom Petty got me thinking of the next category. Let's do a category based on Tom's favorite toms. Let's do it. Why not, right? I love it. Why not? Who should we call upon? Leech? Who's going to answer us? For now, maybe Darth. Darth Vader. Darth Vader. I need to know how you feel about some of these toms. All right, here's who we got. We've got ourselves a Tom Brady.
We've also got Tom Cruise, who doesn't know Tom Cruise.
Cocktail. All right, next one's up. Tom Ford.
And the final one, it's like my suit.
The final one, Tom Hanks. Can't leave him out of the mix.
[00:15:47] Speaker C: No.
[00:15:48] Speaker G: No way.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: I don't know how to.
[00:15:49] Speaker G: No way.
[00:15:50] Speaker C: Act him out.
[00:15:50] Speaker G: Forrest Gump, perhaps. Just like that.
[00:15:54] Speaker D: What was the third one?
[00:15:56] Speaker C: Oh, Tom Ford.
[00:15:57] Speaker G: Tom Ford.
[00:16:00] Speaker E: Okay.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: I can't decide if I would boink or bestie Tom Brady, because I know that he's really super healthy, and I would like to put him beside me and then do everything he does, so then I would automatically be super healthy, too.
[00:16:16] Speaker D: Like, in the bed or as a.
[00:16:18] Speaker G: I like to lick both. Like, I'm not sure.
[00:16:24] Speaker D: Either way, side by side, doing the same thing. Tom Brady.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: And then I don't know who Tom Ford is, so I'll battle him. And Tom Cruise. I will barf on. And Tom Hanks. I will make my bestie.
[00:16:41] Speaker G: Welcome. Lindsay.
[00:16:43] Speaker D: Is that toad? What kind of a mushroom head is that? Are you toad from Super Mario?
[00:16:49] Speaker E: They made it. I called earlier, and I was like, I need a costume, because I was going to find one at the house. And so my sister in law and my mom and my brother all made this for me while I was driving.
[00:17:02] Speaker D: Very impressive and fast. What a great family.
[00:17:06] Speaker G: I know.
[00:17:07] Speaker E: We're like, what's it called from.
Sorry to interrupt the game, everybody, but, oh, I had to leave Lindsay.
She was too famous to be able to come to the game. So. Sorry, guys, but I'm here.
[00:17:26] Speaker C: So she sent you. Her assistant, Toad, after Mario, there was some falling out. You may not know. This is a celebrity gossip.
[00:17:35] Speaker G: It is.
[00:17:36] Speaker C: Lindsay took Toad under her wing, hired him as an assistant. He needed a place. He needed a job.
[00:17:43] Speaker D: She did it.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: She was a famous woman, just like that.
[00:17:46] Speaker E: Very true. That happened.
[00:17:47] Speaker G: Toad, take over, would you? You know what? We're just going to move on to the next category. Here we go.
[00:17:53] Speaker D: Scary dudes.
[00:17:54] Speaker G: Scary dudes.
[00:17:55] Speaker C: You know a little something about some scary dudes. Don't.
[00:17:58] Speaker E: I do. I do.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: We're playing bestie. Boink.
[00:18:01] Speaker G: Battle.
[00:18:01] Speaker C: Barf, Dracula, Frankenstein.
[00:18:06] Speaker G: Darth Vader's in the house.
[00:18:10] Speaker E: Freddy Krueger and Freddy Krueger. Oh, well, let's barf to Freddy Krueger.
[00:18:16] Speaker G: He's freaky.
[00:18:17] Speaker D: You don't want to battle him. Freaky.
[00:18:19] Speaker G: Completely. Yeah.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: Halloween.
[00:18:21] Speaker D: What are the other ones?
[00:18:22] Speaker G: Dracula.
[00:18:22] Speaker E: I think I'd like to be besties with Dracula. I think he'd have some interesting things. He probably had some cool friends.
[00:18:28] Speaker C: Very cool.
[00:18:30] Speaker E: He might bite me, but then I'd live forever, which is kind of cool.
But then you'd have to suck blood, which is not so cool for toads.
[00:18:39] Speaker D: For toads.
[00:18:41] Speaker E: What were the other two?
[00:18:42] Speaker D: We have Darth Vader, who's also with us today.
[00:18:47] Speaker G: Careful how you answer.
[00:18:50] Speaker E: I think I need to boink Darth Vader because he is so attractive.
[00:18:57] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:18:58] Speaker G: Is it getting hot in here, ladies?
Someone's going to get the old mushroom tonight.
[00:19:07] Speaker E: And then whatever the last one.
[00:19:09] Speaker G: Battle.
[00:19:10] Speaker E: Battle. Oh, I'm going to battle Frankenstein. That might be an interesting battle.
[00:19:14] Speaker G: He's slow. He's slow.
[00:19:15] Speaker C: You got this.
[00:19:16] Speaker G: You got it. You're little. You're quick. You're little, you're quick. I'm just excited about the little matchmaking we did here, Lee. Love connection. You're welcome.
Love connection.
I love getting to know you gals.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: This was a great thing. This was great. Let's wrap it up. We got other things to do. We got celebrities to interview.
[00:19:35] Speaker G: Cassie, Lee, as.
[00:19:39] Speaker C: We'Re in New York. We're in New York. Thanks for playing. See you on the next one, guys.
[00:19:44] Speaker G: Thanks, everyone.
Now quit yelling in my ear.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: Oh, Lee, this interruption is brought to you by unpublished. Do you want to know more about the members in book interrupted? Go behind the scenes, visit our website at www.bookinterrupted.com.
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[00:20:07] Speaker E: My interruption is we just finished taping a podcast, and we were joking about 50 shades of gray and a few different other things, and then I turned off my recording and I heard that in the background my neighbors are having sex really, really loudly. So I think it might be in the taping of my podcast. In the background, them enjoying themselves.
[00:20:33] Speaker G: Book interrupted.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Ever wonder what we talk about before or after the show? Did you want updates on some of our challenges? Maybe insight into some deleted scenes? Here's your chance. Let's look behind the scenes.
[00:20:47] Speaker D: I thought maybe we would talk. Everyone could talk a little bit about how we are doing that ten minute in the closet challenge and we can move on from it.
[00:20:56] Speaker F: Why Sarah?
[00:20:57] Speaker D: The one that I threw down, I did, like, twice.
I was like, I'm going to do this. And then just like, ten minutes.
[00:21:07] Speaker G: I don't know.
[00:21:07] Speaker D: The kids can't hint. They just can't do 30 seconds, so they're just banging on the door and screaming. And then whoever adult is out there to, like, leave your mom alone. It's just not relaxing.
[00:21:19] Speaker F: And then did you fingers underneath the closet?
[00:21:22] Speaker D: Well, I can lock my bedroom door and then go into the closet, but then I got my leg, my woodworking hearing protection on.
[00:21:28] Speaker G: I don't know.
[00:21:29] Speaker D: It's just not relaxing.
Still hear them through the hearing protection.
Yeah, I didn't really do it. I did it three times, and the first time I was way longer than ten minutes because I couldn't actually just stop thinking. Like, they're like, just do it for ten minutes. And I was like, oh, shit. I've just been thinking for ten minutes. Okay, let's start again. And then after I was like, the second time I did it, I was like, because I'm so used to the guided meditation, I was like, I'm just going to do a guided meditation on my. Like, I created one in my mind. I'm like, I'm doing. This is a picture yourself. So I started talking to myself as this. We're kind of meditation so I could get through it. And then the third time, I did that again, and then I fell asleep, and I was like, meep. That's what I felt like. KJ. Meep. And then I never went back. I never even thought about it until just now. Talk about the challenge that we all fell off of. I think pretty much. For the record, I love being in the closet in the dark.
[00:22:28] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:22:28] Speaker D: I love being in the dark in a small space.
[00:22:30] Speaker F: It's their happy place.
[00:22:31] Speaker D: Or, like, lying under a bed. Underneath the bed. I was doing that for a hide and go seek with my kid, and I was just like, oh, so nice under here. I love being in small, confined spaces.
[00:22:40] Speaker F: No, that's, like, my nightmare.
[00:22:42] Speaker E: I hate that.
[00:22:43] Speaker D: No, Mary, do you remember the bunk bed? I got caught. That was my favorite ever. Did any of you see it?
[00:22:48] Speaker F: Is it the one where it was up so high that when you were laying in bed, you literally can't sit up?
[00:22:54] Speaker D: Because I got it when I was, like, 18. It wasn't like I got it when I was, like, a child and it had, like, a desk underneath. But when you climbed up the stairs, I literally would have to army shuffle into it. And there was a mark on the ceiling from where the stucco was worn off for me getting in, you couldn't bend your knees. You couldn't roll over and bend your knees. You had to keep straight and just like, roll. I could only just roll over and I'd be touching the ceiling.
And it was a double bed, and it was my favorite so safe feeling ever. I loved it.
[00:23:26] Speaker G: Really.
[00:23:27] Speaker D: It's insane to me, but it feels so safe.
[00:23:30] Speaker E: What happens if you had a nightmare and you sat up and you're like.
[00:23:33] Speaker D: That'S happened to me in your bed. I woke up, you're like, bonk, bonk. I just gonna say that I remember Meredith did that. Forgot where she was. And she went to get up.
[00:23:42] Speaker G: She was like, whack, whack.
[00:23:45] Speaker D: It's probably like Christmas. Like, when family's visiting, we have to share, right? And, like, you're not going to send your uncle up there.
[00:23:51] Speaker G: Get up into the bunk bed. Unc.
[00:23:55] Speaker D: Unc.
[00:23:56] Speaker G: Night. Night.
[00:23:57] Speaker F: I hated the challenge. I hated it. It made me feel like a failure because I'd really built up my ego on being able to do meditation because I do guided meditations like Sarah, and then I also do them like Leah. I stopped fighting against the kids, and I just do it in the space where the kids are. Because the moment you try to carve out a space and time for yourself, it's like the kids smell it. So I was like, I can't make meditation intentional. I just have to like.
And then they leave me alone. If you don't announce it right? And then they end up just coming and cuddling, which is always nice, but just sitting there with the silence. I hated it. My ego hated it because it was like, thought you could meditate?
No, you can't. You're too fucking busy and spun to do that shit. And I was like, screw you.
[00:24:58] Speaker D: Challenge.
[00:24:59] Speaker E: I don't have any closets in my house. Make it difficult. But I tried once and I didn't do so well. I sometimes will meditate before bed so that I can sleep because my brain's always going a thousand times. So I often, when I'm laying in bed, will do things like, I think that there's a light inside of me and it kind of heals me or something. I don't know. I have this weird thing that I do, but I also associate it with sleeping because I try to relax my body and change my mind. So when I tried to do it, anytime I tried to do it, I just fall asleep, because for me, it's like, oh, I'm finally relaxed.
[00:25:34] Speaker D: I could sleep.
[00:25:35] Speaker E: So, yeah, I did not do well on this challenge either.
[00:25:37] Speaker F: Blair would find you, like, sleeping again.
[00:25:40] Speaker D: I'm meditating. He's like, you're trying to meditate, guys.
[00:25:44] Speaker G: It's a new type of meditation.
Oh, the one time I went to.
[00:25:47] Speaker D: Meditate, I forgot to say the third time, the last time I meditated, I finally did it. Whatever. Mommadu came into the room. My husband came into the room and took a picture of me, and I heard it, and I was like, you're.
[00:26:00] Speaker G: Worse than the kids.
[00:26:01] Speaker D: And he's like. He's like, well, you're just so peaceful. I just thought, you're so peaceful. I thought I'd break the piece, leave, try to do this thing. It's a challenge.
[00:26:12] Speaker C: I was fine with it. It was good. I had the opposite experience. But I've been working at this prior to the. I didn't get the memo about going into a closet. Like, I read that in the book, but I didn't know I had to, so I didn't. And I've been working at that, like, my previous year's New Year's resolution was ten minute meditations a day. I've been doing it, and it continues to go well.
[00:26:40] Speaker G: You got to keep at it.
[00:26:43] Speaker C: I find the first ten minutes, it takes my brain about ten minutes to settle in. And then if you wanted to keep doing it, which it sounds like nobody does, the next ten minutes, if you extend it to 20 minutes, is when the work happens.
[00:26:57] Speaker D: Oh, maybe that's my problem.
[00:26:59] Speaker F: Do you do dad's mantra? Like, do you say the mantra that dad gave you?
[00:27:04] Speaker C: So what dad taught us is transcendental meditation.
[00:27:08] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:27:08] Speaker F: Do you do that, or do you just go dead side?
[00:27:12] Speaker G: I have done that.
[00:27:13] Speaker C: I don't do that currently.
[00:27:15] Speaker G: Okay.
[00:27:15] Speaker C: No. And sometimes if I'm doing a before bed meditation, I do do what Sarah's doing is taking yourself on a little calm down journey. Or I also do what Lindsay does, which I would call chakra healing, which is like imagining light and healing. And where does your body need attention? Yeah, but it's all hard. There's never a time that I've meditated ever that it's been easy, and yet.
[00:27:41] Speaker F: You keep persevering ever.
[00:27:43] Speaker C: I don't think that's an easy thing to do.
[00:27:45] Speaker G: No.
[00:27:45] Speaker E: I should do it more often, but sometimes.
[00:27:48] Speaker C: Have you guys ever meditated and you do have, like, an enlightenment moment, like.
[00:27:53] Speaker D: Out of body sometimes out of body.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Sometimes, like, the goal, I would say. I don't know what to call.
[00:27:58] Speaker D: I used to meditate every day for years. Actually, when I got diagnosed with epilepsy.
[00:28:03] Speaker C: I had a hard time sleeping.
[00:28:04] Speaker D: But the sleep is, like, really, if I don't get sleep, that's what gives me a seizure in the morning, I'll have a seizure. So, yeah, I got really good at meditating to help me sleep. In high school, I was 14. I started, I'm like, I need to do this. And, yeah, it really does. Good for you. I'd always feel like I was floating, and I could kind of see was around me, even though I wasn't. I don't know what that is, but I guess, like, real awareness of my surroundings.
[00:28:28] Speaker F: You know what it sounds like the documentary that Bob and I watched last night, it was getting into all of this, except not within the context of meditation. It was death. So it was all these interviews of people who had died but come back to life. And it's literally just like, what we're talking about right now. It's kind of weird, except that they flatlined, like, completely. One woman was, like, for 30 minutes, she had no oxygen to the brain, and yet when she came back, she didn't have any mental brain damage. Yeah, brain damage. I guess it was just.
[00:29:11] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:29:11] Speaker F: And everyone was talking about, yeah, you start to slowly peel away from your physical form, and you do. You're kind of, like, just slightly up a little bit.
[00:29:22] Speaker E: Are you sure that's not brain damage?
[00:29:23] Speaker F: It could be. That was what one of the interviewers was asking. They were like, could it be possible that this is just what is happening during the course of brain damage? But then they brought in all these people because the whole point of the documentary was to try to.
What is it? Prove the unprovable, or what is it? They said, our whole world is driven by the scientific principles of observation and empirical data. And they were trying to come up with tools. They were like, well, in order to measure what isn't there, maybe we need to come up with new tools. And so it was exploring different ways of how could we measure the unseen, the unheard?
[00:30:08] Speaker H: I did a course on dying and death in world religions or something like that. And so there was a chapter on near death experiences. They're so common that they have a criteria that I don't remember the exact numbers, but more often than not, there's a light. There's a feeling of floating. There's a person that, you know, waiting for you. There's all these common things that many people who have reported to have these experiences, when they return, they describe these similar kind of. I don't know what you would call them.
[00:30:45] Speaker F: I don't know what the word is they use either. But they mentioned that in the documentary, they were like, yeah. And they started to compile all these people's stories, and they started to look for, what are the patterns? What are the things that are in common? And, yeah, there was always, like, the light.
[00:30:58] Speaker D: Right.
[00:30:59] Speaker H: Characteristics, I guess, is a good word.
[00:31:01] Speaker G: Right.
[00:31:01] Speaker H: And so there's almost like a test you could do now. Like, if someone goes away. Goes away. Whether they almost died or they were just asleep.
[00:31:08] Speaker G: Right.
[00:31:09] Speaker H: Because it's not even just with near death. Because a near death experience often includes an out of body experience.
[00:31:15] Speaker G: Right.
[00:31:15] Speaker H: Like, those are two separate things. And so the out of body experiences think is something that you can aspire to with meditation as well. And then that data is hilarious because people are like, yeah, I floated over into the other room and I heard this conversation, and they come back and they talk about it, and they're like, oh, that's actually true.
And other things, too. They see someone who's already passed anyway, there's a whole bunch of stuff that's really interesting. The other thing that I wanted to say that you just sparked in me, too, the whole basis of that about figuring out other ways of measuring. I feel like that's the flaw in that study, because it reminded me of indigenous ways of knowing. That's what they're trying to do, is know these things that are not tangible, essentially. And another class I'm taking, because all I do is take classes all day, every day, is indigenous education. And part of indigenous education is it's a complete paradigm shift from our traditional ways of knowing.
[00:32:16] Speaker C: Right?
[00:32:17] Speaker H: So dreams are acceptable ways of knowing, and visions are acceptable ways of knowing. And there's less emphasis on measurement, and the focus is more on experience. So when you were saying, they're like, how do we measure? How do we measure? I think for me, I felt compelled to be like, you measure it by your experience of it, right? Like, that's enough there.
[00:32:37] Speaker G: Oh, yeah.
[00:32:38] Speaker F: That was like, the whole point is that there was this whole group, and they divided into two camps. The people that were like, no, we need to find a way to measure it. Be able to share to the people who are non believers. Here's your freaking data. And then there's other people that are saying, there's no point. Like, we don't feel this compelling need to have to prove it.
[00:33:00] Speaker H: To anyone.
[00:33:01] Speaker F: Live the experience.
[00:33:02] Speaker D: And because we live the experience, we're going to write a book about stories and call it untamed.
But that's what she's talking about. Especially when she's like, when she has a business meeting, she's like, we looked at the data. It's right. I'm not as impressed if they say. I got a warm feeling. Do you remember this part of the book where she was like, I'll accept her?
[00:33:22] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:33:23] Speaker F: And then she decided to sink into the goo.
[00:33:26] Speaker D: The goo?
[00:33:26] Speaker C: Yeah, it sounded like it's really easy for her to sink into her goo. I've never found that very easy to get into my goo. Like my knowing maybe you're always in your gooey goo.
Well, in terms of meditation, I've never found it easy. And so rarely do you click into that, like, goo. But I guess it depends on why you're meditating. I meditate because I'm a highly reactive person. The hardness is the point, I think.
[00:33:56] Speaker F: Yeah, I think.
[00:33:57] Speaker C: I don't know. That was my point. Or it was the point for me.
[00:34:00] Speaker E: No, I was just going to say, wasn't Glennon Doyle talking about how she's figured out how to do it? Just in the middle of whatever, like you're saying a business meeting or just like when she's sitting on the bus or, I don't know, whatever else. She probably doesn't sit on a bus now because she makes $3 billion, but in her limo, to her.
[00:34:16] Speaker G: No.
[00:34:19] Speaker E: Yeah, exactly. In her private jet. She's sitting there slipping into her.
[00:34:24] Speaker D: Here I go.
[00:34:25] Speaker E: Meditative state.
[00:34:26] Speaker F: Yeah, I remember that as well. I interpreted it based on Glenn's book that she does now slip into the golden ego with ease.
[00:34:37] Speaker G: Right.
[00:34:38] Speaker H: And like Talia's point, she practices because she recognizes a tendency to be reactive. And I think that the practice of meditation sets you up to trend towards responding. Right. Which involves a little bit of space between what's happening and how you respond to it. If you just react, you're not even choosing your reaction. If you respond right, you're choosing. And so I think that Glennon likes to respond from her knowing or from her truth. And so to be able to kind of master that skill so she can pull on it whenever she needs to is the goal for her.
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[00:35:51] Speaker D: I like that, too, because what happened to you is that's why you're who you are, not like, there's something wrong with you.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: And I'm not against Oprah. I never really thought about Oprah.
[00:36:03] Speaker D: But as it turns out, that might come down to feeling manipulated, too, because it's like, just tell me.
[00:36:09] Speaker C: I don't need the song and dance.
[00:36:10] Speaker E: Do you think it has to do with something in your childhood?
[00:36:12] Speaker D: And some people were like, oh, what's wrong with that person? But really, it's like, wow, maybe they're.
[00:36:17] Speaker F: Having a bad day, but that he doesn't leave his heart at the door.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: Book interrupted never forget, every child matters.
