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[00:00:00] Speaker A: This episode's brought to you by Liz Clark, astrology. No nonsense, personalized, honest, handwritten readings that aim to be as constructive and helpful as possible. A glimpse into your true self, maybe even one you forgot about, go to www.lizclark.com. You can also find the link in our show notes below.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Oh, hey, listeners. How's it going?
[00:00:22] Speaker C: I know.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Can't wait for season two.
[00:00:24] Speaker D: Me.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Me either. But I got something to get you through. Here's a little sample of the newest segment that we're calling book interrupted. Off the shelf. Enjoy.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Parental guidance is recommended because this episode has mature topics and strong language. Here are some moments you can look forward to during this episode of book interrupted.
[00:00:44] Speaker D: Here we go. Hello and welcome, everyone, to the Enneagram quiz show.
[00:00:50] Speaker C: And you know what, Nat? Let's share with them some famous number seven, shall we?
[00:00:55] Speaker E: Now you're grounded. You can't go to that party. And my fomo would really flare off. I love laughing at you. Sarah doesn't think she's emotionally stable, but she just, you know, likes to feel her emotions. Elders here tell young girls to take it once they get their period. Like to take it regularly. I have my period again, every single time. I don't know. I love that you coordinate your period with her. I know.
[00:01:19] Speaker D: Well, information is the world.
Trying to learn something new without my body is.
Information is trying to learn something without being disrupted.
Mind, body and soul inspiration is with us, and we're going to talk it out on book interrupted.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: Welcome to book Interrupted, a book club for busy people to connect and one that celebrates life's interruptions.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Hold on to your bookmarks. Book interrupted presents off the shelf.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: All right, so, yeah, it's fun.
[00:02:09] Speaker D: There's no real rules.
[00:02:11] Speaker F: And Kara and I will be hosting it.
[00:02:14] Speaker D: And is there any questions before we start?
[00:02:16] Speaker E: What is it?
[00:02:17] Speaker D: We're playing a game. Yeah.
[00:02:19] Speaker E: Okay. Like a quiz shelf, or do I have to remember what all the numbers mean? I was just going to be like, who's more likely to, I don't know, kiss a dog? Kiss a Dog. Kiss a dog.
[00:02:31] Speaker D: I don't know.
[00:02:32] Speaker E: I've been thinking about dogs lately.
[00:02:33] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:02:34] Speaker F: It's not going to be hard. It's going to be easy.
You'll get the answer. Wrong or right, it doesn't really matter.
[00:02:40] Speaker D: This is all just fun content.
[00:02:42] Speaker E: Oh, good. I'm like, because I didn't study. I meant to study, but I didn't.
[00:02:45] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness.
[00:02:47] Speaker D: There's no prize. I can make you a prize and.
[00:02:49] Speaker F: Mail it to the winner if it makes. It'll be a big bag of hot.
[00:02:54] Speaker E: Dogs I want to lose now.
Pork hot dogs to Senegal.
[00:03:00] Speaker D: Surprise.
[00:03:01] Speaker E: Yeah. I was like, do not send them here. Do not send them here. They won't even make it through customs.
[00:03:06] Speaker D: Yeah, they're going to make it.
I'm sending them. Okay.
[00:03:11] Speaker C: All right, here we go.
[00:03:13] Speaker D: Here we go. Hello and welcome, everyone, to the Enneagram quiz show. I'm Nat payback. And Hannah. Go on, girl. Introduce yourself.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: And I'm your lovely assistant, Hannah. Tight. Thanks, Pat.
[00:03:31] Speaker D: How are you, Hannah? Looking lovely as ever.
[00:03:35] Speaker C: Oh, thanks, Nat. Pat. Now, don't forget our sponsors.
[00:03:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:03:46] Speaker D: So this show is brought to you by the lovely girls over at book interrupted. Don't forget to tune in on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go ahead and get started, y'all, and play the Enneagram quiz show.
Hannah, go ahead and introduce our players.
[00:04:06] Speaker C: Of course. Well, Nat, we have with us today Sarah and Meredith, Lindsay and Kimberly. Kimberly, I don't know. Is it Kim or KJ? Oh, Kim will work.
[00:04:25] Speaker D: Kim will care. Let's get started, shall we?
All right, this first question goes out to Sarah and Meredith. Which one of these descriptions sounds like KJ?
A, this type exemplifies the desire for wholeness, peace, and harmony in our world.
Or b, this type exemplifies the desire for freedom and variety and for exploring the many rich experiences life has to offer. Or C, neither. No one. Sarah, you go ahead and answer first.
[00:05:06] Speaker E: I'm going to have to say a.
Nat.
[00:05:10] Speaker D: Ooh.
[00:05:10] Speaker E: I'm going to have to say b.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: Very interesting answers from our contestants today. Nat. The answer is b.
Type seven, the enthusiast. Here's a bit about type sevens. Sevens want to try everything twice. Once they see what it's like, then the second time to see if they even liked it the first time.
What's important to sevens is being free, having options, and creating more possibilities for their future. And you know what, Nat? Let's share with them some famous number sevens, shall we?
Some famous number sevens are Brad Pitt, Bruce Willis, Benjamin Franklin, Joe Biden, Goldie Hahn, Robin Williams, Jim Carrey, Miley Cyrus, Fergie, Mick Jagger, and, of course, Sir Elton John.
[00:06:20] Speaker D: KJ, sounds like you're in some good company there.
Okay, next question. Next question.
This one for KJ and Lindsay. Which answer sounds most like Sarah? Sarah is a, easygoing and emotionally stable. Or Sarah?
Sarah is enthusiastic, extroverted, and outgoing. Or C, very aware of our own emotional state at all times? KJ, you answer first.
[00:06:56] Speaker E: C.
Yeah, I'm going to go c too.
[00:07:00] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:07:02] Speaker D: What?
[00:07:03] Speaker C: The answer is a. She's a type nine. The peacemaker. Here's a bit about nines, folks. Nines are patient, steady, easygoing, and relaxed, comforting and content. And you know what? Let's share some famous number nines with everyone, shall we? We've got Janet Jackson, Zoe Deschanel, Claude Monet, Abraham Lincoln, Carl Young, Jeff Bridges, Morgan Freeman, Sophia Loren, and of course, Audrey Hepburn.
[00:07:42] Speaker D: That's perfect.
[00:07:46] Speaker E: I love laughing at you. Sarah doesn't think she's emotionally stable, but she just, you know, likes to feel her emotions.
[00:07:54] Speaker C: I would agree. Meredith. What insightful contestants we have. Nat.
[00:08:04] Speaker D: All right, moving on. Okay, wait, I lost my place.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: Question number three. Nat.
[00:08:13] Speaker D: Thank you. Hannah. Keeping it tight as usual.
Meredith, does this sound like Sarah or KJ? She holds back her own reactions and opinions, possibly out of fear of conflict. Does that sound like Sarah or KJ?
Sarah.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: We've got a correct answer. Nat. It is Sarah the type nine. Let's see here. It says that KJ's description would actually sound more like this. She has a hard time saying no and often suffers from fo mo.
That means fear of missing out. Nat.
[00:09:00] Speaker D: Oh, interesting.
Would you concur with this statement? KJ?
[00:09:05] Speaker E: Yeah, I thought it was from being an only child, though, and getting grounded.
[00:09:09] Speaker D: Well, you're dead wrong, but I totally.
[00:09:11] Speaker E: Have that experience of missing out. But I thought it was because I was like, oh, I go home alone, or now you're grounded. You can't go to that party. And my fomo would really flare up.
[00:09:22] Speaker D: Well, it sounds like you have terrible parents.
All right, this one goes out to KJ and Sarah. What do you think, Kara? I mean, Hannah tight. Is is she a, the individualist or B, the peacekeeper? KJ, you answer first. B, it's a.
[00:09:54] Speaker C: Relax, Harry.
[00:10:00] Speaker E: He'S a four.
[00:10:02] Speaker D: That's right. I don't know how she knows this.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: How did she know? Nat how?
I am both. I'm pretty much tied as both a number four and a number nine, which, well, it makes life pretty interesting.
Here's some famous type fours. There's Virginia wolf, Miles Davis, Johnny Depp, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Yusuf Islam, who's also known as Kat Stevens and Annie Lennox.
[00:10:38] Speaker D: Nice. Wow. I always knew you were kind of confusing. Hannah.
[00:10:44] Speaker C: Thank you. Nat.
[00:10:48] Speaker D: All right, question five. This one's for Sarah. Sarah, what do you think? I.
Nat payback. Am. Am I a, the individualist or B, the enthusiast? Go ahead, Sarah.
[00:11:02] Speaker E: A, the individualist.
[00:11:04] Speaker C: Very well done. The answer is a, the individualist, but her second highest score is the enthusiast.
[00:11:12] Speaker D: Which is the same as our friend KJ.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: It sure.
[00:11:18] Speaker D: Is. Sure is good to see you, KJ. Looking to you, girl. All right, next question. Lindsay, which one of these descriptions sounds like mayor? This type exemplifies the human desire to be understood, to look beneath the surface of things, and to arrive at deeper insights about reality. Or B. This type exemplifies the desire to be ourselves, to be known for who we are, and to know the depths of our heart. Or C, neither. Neither of those sounds like anyone. Lindsay, go ahead. That's hard.
[00:11:53] Speaker E: I think she could be both, but I'm going to go a. I'm going to go a for that one, but I think she could be the other one, too.
[00:12:00] Speaker C: These contestants are on fire.
Answer a does describe type fives. Here's some more info about type fives. They are focused, observant, curious, and very insightful. Fives are visionaries. Playful, compassionate, but can get into conflict by being detached, extremely provocative and uncompromising.
[00:12:26] Speaker D: I'd like to see some of that provocativeness. Mayor. Just a.
Oh, yes.
Nice.
All right, Sarah, does this sound like Lindsay? I am a, very aware of my emotional states at all time, B, have an unlimited imagination and enjoy the inner world of the mind. Or c, easy going and emotionally stable. Sarah, go ahead.
[00:12:55] Speaker E: I would have to say b.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: My goodness, Nat, another correct answer.
The answer is b. Did you guys know that mayor and Lindsay are both actually the same type? The investigator. However, one of them is a split 56, which means her first and second type score is only one point apart.
[00:13:22] Speaker D: Wow. Fascinating. KJ, guess which one is the split. Is it mayor or is it Lindsay?
[00:13:31] Speaker E: Lindsay.
[00:13:32] Speaker C: My goodness, Nat, we're going to have to send out hot dogs to everyone.
It is Lindsay. She's the investigator, as well as the loyalist. Some loyalist traits are reliable, hardworking, and organized. And by the way, here are some famous number fives. Trent Reznor, Tom York, Jody Foster, Agatha Christie, Stephen Hawking, Vincent van Gogh, Kurt Cobain, and Gates.
[00:14:08] Speaker D: Oh, couple of creative smarty pants.
All right, we're getting close to the end of the game, and I've been not keeping scores, so let's just power through.
[00:14:22] Speaker C: Neither have I. Nat.
[00:14:25] Speaker E: Yay.
[00:14:26] Speaker D: All right, Lindsay, which description sounds most like Kara?
[00:14:32] Speaker C: It's Hannah now.
[00:14:34] Speaker D: Hannah tata.
She goes deep on work reading.
Okay, she goes deep on work on reading, or on her own thoughts. Sometimes stays up all night forgetting to take care of her own physical needs. Or b, she feels alone and creative and sometimes misunderstood, but also kind of proud of it, Lindsay, a or b?
I think that you're more like a.
[00:15:06] Speaker E: But when I read those things, it's going to be b. But I think you're more like a.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: It's so true, Lindsay. It's so true. Although I do very much identify with the answers in number a. I am more of an Answer. B, a type four. The individualist. Just like Nat. It's my predominant type. But I'm also a split, just like Lindsay.
So I am the individualist and the peacemaker. The peacemaker like Sarah. So what do we think? Do we think that Sarah sounds like the peacemaker? Do Lindsay and Mayor seem like the investigators?
[00:15:48] Speaker D: What do you think, rube?
[00:15:49] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:15:50] Speaker D: Hard to know. Barely learned anything about enneagrams.
[00:15:56] Speaker E: Hard to know.
[00:16:00] Speaker C: Feel like nothing happened.
[00:16:04] Speaker D: Does anyone think that KJ sounds like the enthusiast, which is what her Enneagram type is?
[00:16:10] Speaker C: But again, that is so hard to tell.
[00:16:15] Speaker D: I'm more confused than I was when the game started.
[00:16:17] Speaker C: I know. Well, you know what? That wraps up our Enneagram quiz show.
[00:16:24] Speaker D: Okay, well, for more information about enneagrams, check out www.enneagraminstitute.com. Until next time, keep reading, everyone, and try not to get interrupted.
Hot dogs for everyone.
Hot dogs for everyone.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: Everybody.
[00:16:47] Speaker D: Yeah, I should have done the Oprah. You get hot dog.
[00:16:51] Speaker E: You should have had hot dogs and.
[00:16:52] Speaker D: Thrown it at your camera, man. Okay, redo.
Start over.
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[00:17:17] Speaker E: This interruption is brought to you by my family's annual Christmas card photo shoot. It's incredibly silly. There's costumes, there's hair, and it's really hard to nail the facial expression. I think that's the essence of these photos. But there's so much more to it. It's become a kind of tradition for our family. And it's fun because it spreads joy during a time of year that can be very stressful for many people, including me.
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[00:17:57] Speaker E: I have my period again, every single time. I don't know. I love that you coordinate your period with our.
[00:18:03] Speaker F: Well, are you that on? No, because that doesn't make sense.
[00:18:08] Speaker E: No, it does kind of make sense because I'm like close to. I'm usually around the weekend when I have it, and it's always in a weekend and I'm always every whatever week.
[00:18:18] Speaker F: How long is your cycle?
[00:18:20] Speaker E: Four weeks.
Okay, well, I guess we do kind of meet every four weeks. Like sometimes. Maybe we should shift it. Maybe we should shift. We are shifting it though. We are shifting it, remember? Because the 4% fix and stuff is shifted a little bit because we couldn't make the dates work. There you go.
[00:18:39] Speaker F: Are you still taking those pills, Lindsay?
[00:18:41] Speaker E: Oh, I am, but I haven't even emailed her yet. They're not working. Is it not working at all?
I'm still in excruciating pain. Hey, Lindsay, maybe.
[00:18:52] Speaker F: Hey, Lindsay, maybe your mindset's not right.
[00:18:56] Speaker E: I haven't read the mindset.
Do you have a beautiful period? Yeah.
Maybe it's your fault.
I tried the beautiful period brain thing. That didn't work either. Leah is yours. Have you been taking them?
[00:19:11] Speaker F: No. I took a pause from. I did take them and I had a very strange period.
[00:19:18] Speaker C: And I think I was strange.
[00:19:20] Speaker D: How?
[00:19:21] Speaker F: Green and sparkly out of nowhere.
Oh my God. Like wild emotions and a black blood period.
[00:19:31] Speaker D: It was black.
[00:19:32] Speaker F: And I was like coming out, Leah.
[00:19:34] Speaker G: And I had also just done a juice cleanse. And for the first time in my life, I also had like, it was almost black.
[00:19:46] Speaker E: That's all the crappy stuff that you're getting out of you. It's good.
[00:19:50] Speaker F: Yeah, that's what we told ourselves.
[00:19:53] Speaker E: Cleansing.
[00:19:54] Speaker F: And then I'm just like doing too many changes at once, which I always do. I'm like, I up and like, well, I'm going to take this out and do that and I'm going to be the healthiest version of myself all at once. And then obviously my body, I just need to go slow and steady. So if the bottle says take two pills a day, I have to take one pill a day. Or maybe every other day. Like I just keep relearning that lesson all or nothing.
[00:20:19] Speaker E: Let us know when you do it more consistently.
[00:20:22] Speaker F: Yeah, so I took it out because I'm just taking too many new vitamins all over Brussels.
[00:20:28] Speaker E: Yeah. Well, then you can't tell whether it's working because if you.
[00:20:32] Speaker F: I'm going to try it again. Just like when. Yeah, everything settled. I don't know. I'm on a vitamin break. I've decided. I broke up with vitamins for a little while.
[00:20:43] Speaker E: I did, but only because I keep.
[00:20:48] Speaker F: Like what I like to tell myself is on purpose. And it's like, no, your body needs to go vitamin list sometimes, Leah.
[00:20:54] Speaker E: I get one of those containers that people who are on a lot of medications use. And then I do all the vitamins and put it in there. So it's got a whole week for Dan and me. And I put it on top of the eggs in the fridge. So when you go to have breakfast, you have to see it or touch it.
But then it gets empty. I don't always fill it up again, although my kids like filling.
[00:21:17] Speaker D: They're like, we want to help.
[00:21:18] Speaker E: I'm like, hey, one of these. Each of these, actually very helpful. But I don't like them doing it on their own. Obviously, I wouldn't.
[00:21:25] Speaker G: No, that's not relevant because that would be an interesting cocktail mix of surprises if the kids.
[00:21:32] Speaker F: Mostly vitamin D. Yeah, vitamin D. But.
[00:21:37] Speaker E: One time violet got her. They have fish oil vitamins. They're little kid ones, and they have strawberry oil in them, so they love them. Although they still smell like fish, too. I don't know. Fishy strawberry.
[00:21:47] Speaker F: They love it.
[00:21:47] Speaker E: And violet figured out how to open the kid proof thing, and she ate the rest of the bottle. And I was like, well, fish oil.
[00:21:56] Speaker F: She's like, the worst diarrhea ever.
[00:21:58] Speaker E: Stinky.
[00:21:59] Speaker F: I switched to krill after reading. Seeing red guys don't go to, oh, I can't do it.
[00:22:04] Speaker E: Is it too fishy? They're pretty fishy.
[00:22:06] Speaker F: It's so stinky and it secretes. So all the other vitamins stick to it and it becomes one giant, awful vitamin. I don't recommend it.
[00:22:20] Speaker E: You can't mix it with the other ones.
For you, though.
[00:22:25] Speaker F: I know. I'd rather just stick to the other omega that contains itself.
[00:22:32] Speaker G: Yeah, it's not oiling all over. I'm happy to report, guys, that I decided instead to hook up with my friend Julie, who is just so smart when it comes to this, and she specializes in hormones, and I've been working with her, so it's kind of similar to Kirsten's work, but she's, like, in the same city as me, and it's really easy to meet up. Anyways, just had the most phenomenal period ever, honestly. So if you guys ever, like, four days.
[00:23:08] Speaker E: Four days.
[00:23:09] Speaker G: I could use something more than a panty liner. Okay. For me, there's a scanty.
[00:23:17] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:17] Speaker G: It's, like, ridiculous. It's as if I'm not even reading my own.
I was like, I get it now. What Kirsten was referred, like, the color was gross. It was beautiful.
[00:23:32] Speaker E: It was amazing. You have to get my nails painted.
[00:23:38] Speaker D: Can I have beautiful period red.
[00:23:43] Speaker E: Marvel? Do you not know what it looks like? I don't understand, actually, I'm on my period right now. Let me just get this template for you.
[00:23:53] Speaker G: If you guys do ever want contact details, I just want someone who's really local or whatever. I can't recommend her enough. And she does, like, the neurofeedback, too. So you can see what parts of your brain are over firing and under firing. And then she gives you appropriate meditation exercises and movement exercises and breathing exercises that are tailored to activating the parts of your brain that don't work and calming the parts that overwork. And then that all ties in with hormones.
[00:24:29] Speaker E: It's so good.
You're, like, speaking my language. Like, oh, my gosh, I can hyper analyze myself even more. What parts of the brain are my firing? I don't care. Well, I do, but not as much about the period. I seem to be okay right now with the things I'm doing. Like the moringa. The moringa I started adding to our coffee. I added to our coffee. Now it's moringa. What's moringa? I thought it was probably, like, you know how she said spirulina? Moringa is something that's here, and it's crazy high in iron. Like, elders here tell young girls to take it once they get their period. Like, to take it regularly. And then I want to research it. It's very high in iron and stuff. So I was like, I wonder if it'll do the same thing, like the cooling effect she was talking about and helping produce blood and stuff. So I just started adding it to me and Mama Du's coffees, because at first, I was trying to do smoothies or trying to drink it straight, but it's already kind of bitter like coffee is. So I just kind of put a little bit in it for both of us. And then my periods have been pretty good, but when Kara said what she said, it just makes me. I wonder what parts of the brain might fire off when I am doing whatever. Anyway.
[00:25:36] Speaker G: Yeah, it's so cool.
[00:25:37] Speaker E: I love analyzing myself, the archetype.
[00:25:40] Speaker G: Fascinating information, because we're so quick to criticize ourselves and judge ourselves based on our behaviors and what we're doing and not doing. And it was interesting to find a biological representation that maybe I don't need to have such a harsh inner monologue that maybe there are some things that I can use the world and nature and plants to help me.
[00:26:08] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: Thank you for joining us on this episode of book, Interrupted. If you'd like to see the video highlights from this episode, please go to our YouTube channel. Book interrupted. You can also find our videos on www.bookinterrupted.com. We've picked our books and we've done our photo shoot. The second season of book, interrupted starts January 3. To find out more, go to www.bookinterrupted.com. Moments you can look forward to on next week's book interrupted when I'm listening.
[00:26:40] Speaker F: To our episodes because we have such.
[00:26:42] Speaker E: Good conversation and I wanted to keep going.
[00:26:44] Speaker D: Probably my favorite quote.
[00:26:46] Speaker E: I mean, I can't remember a specific one. So it was when Kirsten Karchmir came on.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: Basically everything Leah says.
Those are my favorite quotes.
[00:26:54] Speaker F: Smells like my dad's old man's fart or something.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: When did this happen?
[00:26:58] Speaker D: Food. Baby food.
[00:27:04] Speaker E: And then it felt like doing the podcast was going to impact us positively, which is nice.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Book interrupted.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Never forget every child matters. Close.
