The End of an Era: Our Final Book Interrupted Episode

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Would you like to attach a face to that voice? When you subscribe to the Book Interrupted YouTube channel, you get to see everybody, as well as check out a bunch of extra Book Interrupted videos and music content. Visit the book interrupted YouTube channel to see what you've been missing. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Parental guidance is recommended because this episode has mature topics and strong language. Here are some moments you can look forward to during this episode of Book Interrupted. So this recap is a very unique recap because we're not just doing a seasons recap. This will actually be the last episode of Book Interrupted. [00:00:35] Speaker C: When I think of Ashley, I think of the Hunger Games. And when I think of Sarah, I think of Twilight. [00:00:42] Speaker D: Yes. Oh, my gosh. [00:00:44] Speaker A: But the audiobook was too. I'm using a sexy voice. The whole time I was like, oh, my God, I am out. Because when else do I get to Photoshop someone's face onto, like, tampons, you know? Like, it was perfect. [00:01:02] Speaker D: Oh, my God. K. Wait. Speaking of dick, I was listening to one of our off the shelves recently. [00:01:09] Speaker E: Yeah, there's just something, like, reassuring. And it feels so good to know that there can be this unlimited supply of indulgences. [00:01:17] Speaker B: I'm just moisturizing you lotion yourself up. [00:01:21] Speaker D: Can you just. [00:01:22] Speaker B: So close the. [00:01:23] Speaker D: Like, I'm trying to cook dinner. [00:01:25] Speaker A: But they weren't giving out samples. They're like, here's the thing you could have sampled if it weren't for the pandemic. [00:01:31] Speaker D: That looks delicious. If you don't like it, touch it. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Remember the mask you had to wear? It was like you're. [00:01:37] Speaker A: You're like an army person. [00:01:38] Speaker C: I have. I wore a mask and then a face shield and glasses. [00:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's saying you've accomplished so much. What happened in five years? It's kind of amazing. [00:01:48] Speaker B: Mind, body, and soul information is the goal. [00:01:54] Speaker E: Trying to learn something new without it. [00:02:00] Speaker C: Mind, body, and sound information is divine. [00:02:06] Speaker A: Trying to learn something new without being disrupted. [00:02:11] Speaker C: Mind, body and soul inspiration is with us. [00:02:17] Speaker A: And we're gonna talk it on Book Interrupted. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Welcome to Book Interrupted, a book club for busy people to connect and one that celebrates life's interruptions. Let's listen in to this episode's group discussion. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Remember we used to do voice warm ups before we went on the podcast? And you used to lead them. I did, yeah. [00:02:45] Speaker C: There was shoulder rolls and, like, stretches of the neck. And what else? We did like, a hot cup of coffee from a proper copper coffee pot. [00:02:54] Speaker B: New York. Something a unique New York. [00:02:57] Speaker C: And everyone would do that. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Unique New York. [00:03:01] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:03:02] Speaker C: They were theater warmups really of what we used to do when we went before we went on stage. [00:03:06] Speaker A: It was always fun. And we did the peanut butter or. [00:03:10] Speaker C: Put the peanut butter in your mouth. You pretend there's peanut butter in your mouth and you move your tongue around. Oh, heck yeah. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Helps you salivate for peanut butter. [00:03:19] Speaker C: No, it also helps your. [00:03:20] Speaker D: Your mouth. [00:03:21] Speaker C: You talk better and speak better. [00:03:24] Speaker D: Oh, I hope we're all eloquently spoken today. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Yes. [00:03:29] Speaker B: And then we dropped all that because then it got comfortable. It was like we were all nervous the first season. [00:03:35] Speaker A: We were. [00:03:36] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:03:37] Speaker C: Sarah, are you doing like an intro to this or. [00:03:40] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Welcome to this book Interrupted recap. So this recap is a very unique recap because we're not just doing a seasons recap. This will actually be the last episode of Book Interrupted, sadly. But everyone's ready to move on and we started this during COVID when we all had so much time on our hands and. Yeah. So this recap what we're gonna do, I'm gonna, like, go through every book we did on all the seasons. We'll give you some stats about Book Interrupted. We will do the recap for all five seasons. So that's what we're doing. Also, everyone should know Kara is going to be running Blaze, so at some point she is going to interrupt all of us. We have a special guest on this episode, which is Jessica, who is our web and graphic designer who designs all our amazing book pick things and our amazing website. So thank you for joining us, Jessica. [00:04:39] Speaker D: Yay. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Welcome, Jessica. [00:04:42] Speaker D: Yay. Yeah. You made everything look so good. I love just all the pictures are always hilarious. [00:04:48] Speaker A: I it made honestly the end of the year so much fun. It was my favorite project to wrap up with work because when else do I get to photoshop someone's face onto, like tampons, you know, like, it was perfect. I love how that just stands out. That's like, how do I explain blame what I do for these women, right? Somebody's face on a tampon. They're like, oh, that sounds very silly, right? [00:05:12] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:05:14] Speaker A: Or that somebody else would be like, oh, I'll change the subject now. They're like, really? Is that what you're like? Yes, I'm a professional graphic designer and that is exactly like my favorite project. I'm probably going to put it in my portfolio. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:05:28] Speaker C: I love that. I mean, I remember doing that Tampa thing where I was like, laying on the ground, like, I don't know what. I put something over, like white thing over my head. So my face is I'm sure Jessica probably got the full of me, like, laying on the ground, like, trying to make faces with Red. And Laird's, like, standing above me, my partner, and trying to take. Oh, my God. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Didn't he roll you in like, a quilt or something? [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yes, that's true. I did get rolled in, like, a blanket or something so that I looked like a big, like, I don't know, sausage or something. So silly. [00:06:00] Speaker B: You had an interruption from doing that photo shoot that said something like, I'm pumming a tampon on my period. You're like, I'm so method. I'm so method. I have my period right now. [00:06:15] Speaker D: I could not be more in this right now. That's so funny. [00:06:21] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I love it. And that, of course, was for seeing Red. [00:06:26] Speaker B: It was, yeah. [00:06:27] Speaker D: Kirsten Karchmer. [00:06:29] Speaker B: Because I think all the stats, she came on twice. One was just like an off the shelf ketchup and one was like the author interview. We just did a bonus with her because we were so all loving her book. And both of those episodes did pretty. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Well because she's such a wild lady. [00:06:44] Speaker B: I love her. She's awesome. [00:06:46] Speaker A: She's a woman who runs with the wolves. She is for sure. [00:06:52] Speaker C: Yeah. We've had so many really good guests on our. On our podcast over the time, like Kirsten and Karma, all our fans. Yeah. Like Ashley, who stuck around. Yes. [00:07:06] Speaker D: Thank you. Of course. [00:07:08] Speaker B: Thanks, Kim. [00:07:09] Speaker D: Seriously. I still remember when she told me about you guys, we were getting a pedicure done, and I was talking something about how I really liked podcasts. I listened to podcasts all the time. And she was like, I'm on a podcast. And I was like, what? Yeah, I remember just binging the episodes, and I thought it was so cool that I knew someone that was on a podcast. Then one time she was like, you should come on. And I was like, oh, my God, my podcasting dreams are going to come true. Yeah. [00:07:40] Speaker B: I love that. Yeah, I love it because. So the one you came on as a fan was our band book season, and you did When Dad Killed Mom. But the next book we were reading was the Hunger Games. Yeah, I remember we were just having our introductory chat that we had to, like, meet with Jessica, like, what are we gonna do for your picture? And we were just like, chatting about the logistics of podcasting, and you're like, saying how you're a super fan. And I was saying how our next one is Hunger Games and you're like, favorite book of all time. Can I come to that one, too? [00:08:12] Speaker C: And I was like, you can come. [00:08:13] Speaker B: To as many as you want. And you're like, in. [00:08:15] Speaker A: I'm in forever. And then you did. [00:08:17] Speaker B: You just came to every single one after. [00:08:21] Speaker D: Absolutely. Awesome. Yeah. I don't have a lot of friends in my everyday life that read, unfortunately, so I was just, like, looking for that kind of community. I had always been reading on Goodreads and stuff, reviews and stuff like that, but I'm not actually speaking with the people. Yeah. So this was right up my alley. And the fact that you guys did the Hunger Games next, I just. That was so meant to be. I was supposed to come on. On that episode. You guys were supposed to slip that you were doing the Hunger Games next. It was just all meant to be. [00:08:55] Speaker B: No, it was like, I had no idea. You're a super fan of the Hunger Games. [00:08:58] Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, yeah. And by the way, the newest trailer for the newest book just came out in the last couple of days, so please watch. [00:09:07] Speaker C: Which one? Who is it about? [00:09:10] Speaker D: Yes, this is Haymitch. This is the 50th Hunger Game, so it's the second quarter quell. The book is so sad. Oh, I'm worried that the movie's gonna be sad. Oh, did you over the summer? [00:09:24] Speaker B: No. Lindsay got it. And then when I was. We were hanging out, she gave it to me on the way home. I had like a 14 hour layover or something ridiculous. And I literally read the entire book in one sitting. [00:09:37] Speaker D: It was amazing because Suzanne Collins can write a book that you want to finish start to finish. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Sunrise and the Reaping. [00:09:46] Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, I am so excited for it. And I feel like, I don't know, maybe I was younger and I was worse with time management or waiting for things. When I was younger, I felt like it took years in between the books and the movies, and now I feel like they're just rolling them out. Oh, and I love it. [00:10:05] Speaker C: When I think of Ashley, I think of the Hunger Games. And when I think of Sarah, I think of Twilight. [00:10:12] Speaker D: Yes. Oh, my gosh. So true. [00:10:16] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Hilarious. Don't get her started. [00:10:20] Speaker C: Well, that in Pride and Prejudice. [00:10:22] Speaker B: But do you know, talking about Twilight, I was doing the stats, so we had an off the shelf where I literally just pieced together all the times we went on and on about Twilight. During a different episode, we. [00:10:36] Speaker E: We. [00:10:37] Speaker A: We let Sarah indulge her Twilight obsession. [00:10:41] Speaker B: When I was into Twilight, it was like every episode, I somehow fit it in somehow. I'd always bring it back to Twilight. [00:10:50] Speaker A: And we never read the book. [00:10:51] Speaker B: At least with Ashley, we Read the Hunger Games. And we read the Ballad of Songer Birds and Snake that no one, like, just me and Kim. Kim read the Twilight series too. And Lindsay had like, you guys knew them Anyway, so I just like pieced together that in an off the shelf episode called Twilight Interrupted. And it was one of our most popular off the shelves. [00:11:10] Speaker A: That's hilarious. [00:11:11] Speaker B: People loved it. [00:11:12] Speaker A: So people love sad vampires. [00:11:15] Speaker D: They Love Twilight on YouTube. [00:11:17] Speaker A: I can tell you that. Our most watched was one with Squiggy. Oh, one of the white fragility ones. Because we had like six episodes per, like, book back then. [00:11:27] Speaker C: I gotta show you guys what shirt I'm wearing. Look. [00:11:30] Speaker E: Hey. [00:11:31] Speaker D: Stumble forward. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Awesome. Stumble. [00:11:34] Speaker D: Nice. [00:11:36] Speaker B: I wore it. [00:11:37] Speaker C: So we made shirts for that episode that says stumble, Stumble, stumble, Stumble forward. Because we were talking about white fragility and about stumbling forward. And so we. We got these shirts made and then on the back it says I can't really turn. [00:11:52] Speaker B: But that was our most popular sweet swag. [00:11:55] Speaker C: It's a good one. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Sold a bunch of that swag because of Squeaky. Then we donated to. He had a charity in Prince Edward County. Yeah, there's a charity there that donated money to every time he sold a shirt. And that was the most. Our most popular swag was that one by far. [00:12:10] Speaker A: It's a good one. [00:12:11] Speaker B: And so Leah designed that. I'll put in the show notes. Our swag shop. Leah's designs are in the swag shop for all that. So you know how Leah, like, she drew something for our blog for each book they're on T shirts and mugs and whatever, sweatshirts. Anyway, so I'll put that in the show notes if people are interested in seeing Leah's art. Or the Stumble Forward. That was the most popular. But sweet Meredith, you should get what the Robin Knows one. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Oh, do you see what I'm wearing today? I know this is a podcast, but we have a YouTube channel too. But that everyone should subscribe to because we need a certain number of subscribers to make anybody on it. Anyway, I'm wearing the shirt I wore in the picture of what the Robin Knows. I made my hair all fluffy and drew a beak, painted a beak on my nose and did bird things. [00:13:03] Speaker D: We truly were method acting getting these pictures. [00:13:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:07] Speaker B: And Jessica put you, like, right beside the robin. [00:13:10] Speaker A: The robin. [00:13:11] Speaker B: And I had a little book writing down. [00:13:14] Speaker A: And in the book it said, like, worms, like tweeting or something. Like, what do robins know? And you all did such a good job too. Like, I would, like, get these, like, high res amazing, like, lighting and all the pictures, I was like, oh, okay. Wow. I got good stuff to work off of. Like, that's because of Lindsay. Did Laird come on, or she. He talked to you? She was like, he has told us what to do for lighting. And we had a little lighting tutorial before we started the podcast. He's like, you need some side light from, like, natural light. You need a ring light. Puts. I used to put a light over top. I kind of stopped because. [00:13:49] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Because I didn't want to do it anymore, but. Sorry, Sarah. [00:13:58] Speaker C: The standards dropped because my partner's a lighting designer. That's why. So that's why he came on to talk about. About lighting. Yeah. [00:14:06] Speaker B: He gave us some pointers. [00:14:07] Speaker D: That's really sweet. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Oh, man. [00:14:10] Speaker C: At the beginning, it was so, like, we didn't know what we were doing at all. We were. Sarah had sent us, like, ring lights, and I was like, how do I put this together? And like, what's this microphone thing? And how do we use this? We had a whole thing of, like, if one of us said something and didn't like what the other person said. We had a code word. Or was it a code word or. [00:14:30] Speaker B: A safe word or something for something. Rewind. Something. [00:14:33] Speaker C: Yes. [00:14:35] Speaker D: Ouch. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Rewind. [00:14:36] Speaker C: Ouch. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Rewind. [00:14:38] Speaker C: How did you remember that? Yes, I. [00:14:40] Speaker A: You guys said rewind. [00:14:41] Speaker C: We thought that if we were offended by someone or whatever, if someone insulted us, we would say out your wine. We would start again. But I don't think we ever did that. But we had a plan for it. [00:14:51] Speaker A: This is like, what happens when you have, like, a bunch of ladies who are, like, not in perimenopause playing the podcast. And by the end, we're like, we don't give a hoot, Cyril. Fix it in editing. Poor Sarah. Before we try not to interrupt each other, even though that is in the name of the podcast. And we're like, this will make it easier for her to edit. [00:15:14] Speaker B: It was a steep learning curve for me, but. And then originally we paid for someone else to edit, and they even dropped out after, like, I think, three months. You're like, we're gonna have to triple your prices, basically. Like, you guys suck and talk over each other all the time. So we're gonna have to triple your prices for this editing. And then I was like, we can't. We can't afford that. So I was like, I'll just have to learn audio edit, which I did. [00:15:40] Speaker A: And you do such a fantastic job. [00:15:42] Speaker D: Oh, you kill it every time. [00:15:43] Speaker A: Sarah, She's Like, I wish you guys would stop interrupting each other, though. [00:15:48] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:15:48] Speaker A: It's too late now. [00:15:50] Speaker D: I will say, for a long time, like, being a fan or listener, I personally couldn't tell that you guys had struggled even from the beginning and onwards. Yeah. So from a viewer point, it always sounded good. [00:16:05] Speaker B: I thought, oh, that's nice. I was struggled, but I tried. [00:16:09] Speaker A: I watched some of our earlier episodes, like, just a little bit. Like, I skipped forward and stuff. Like, I gotta see where we were. I would look so young. I was like, look at me. But it's like, five years ago, you know, I don't like public speaking. I was, like, cripplingly anxious for, like, the first three years. Going on the podcast, it'd be done. I'd be like, I don't even know what I said. Forever. [00:16:33] Speaker D: Blacked it out. [00:16:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:35] Speaker A: Now it's a little bit better. You know, what I do is I used to wear contact lenses when I went on these things so I could see everybody. And I've realized that I don't like that it's better if I can't see as well. So lesson learned, life, y'. All. [00:16:49] Speaker B: I'll do the stats now, so just to give. Yay, everyone. And then I'll go through what books we did so then everyone can remember. So let's do YouTube first. [00:17:00] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Because Mary talked about YouTube. We have 54, 000 views on our YouTube station. Yes. But we only have 291 subscribers. So, like Mir was saying, you need a thousand subscribers to start making money. But we have more than enough views. It's just like, I think it's our generation. Like, when I think about it, I never subscribe to anything, but my daughter, who is 13, subscribes to anybody that's slightly interesting to her. And I'm like, oh, same. All these young people are right. [00:17:32] Speaker A: You know, it's funny now that I'm like, oh, I really like this. I'm like, oh, I should subscribe to. Try to. Now that I know you need a certain amount. I subscribe to more things because Gonna get those. [00:17:42] Speaker D: The small creators going. Yeah. [00:17:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:45] Speaker D: I love it. [00:17:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:46] Speaker B: For our demographic, for the videos, 100% are women, but it's 50. 50 for our shorts between men and women. So men will watch our shorts, but they will not watch our videos, but women do. So that converts to a whole video. We have 35 different countries on our YouTube station watching us, which is us, Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, Senegal, Netherlands, Sweden, India and Ireland are the top 10. And then there's four but that's about 10. [00:18:16] Speaker D: Oh, my God. Ireland. [00:18:18] Speaker E: Cool, right? [00:18:20] Speaker B: So our top 11 videos. [00:18:22] Speaker E: I did 11. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Because honestly, ladies, Women who Run the Wolves. I know that many of you did not like that book, but people love that book. So it's like every episode. Because we did six episodes for that and it's like every single one. So I'll tell you what our top 11 videos are. The first video is the Hands may tell, episode one. With 2300 views of that video, lessons in chemistry. We have 2000 views. White Fragility, episode three. We have a thousand views. Off the shelf are behind the Scenes Merkins and Hickeys and Naked Attraction. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Everything was sex. People love it. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Yep. 887 views from the ashes, episode one. 830 views. Women who run with the wolves, episode one. The video and the podcast together was over 900. Episode two was 282 and episode three was 279. There's a lot of women who run the wolves. Next we have Fun Home, episode one. Then the absolutely true Diary of a Part Time Indian, Episode one, Sapiens Episode four. They Called Me Number One, Episode one. And the final is what the Robin Knows. Episode two. Mayor. [00:19:45] Speaker A: You know why. Okay, so I saw that. I was like, I was looking to see what the views were myself. And I was like, episode two, why I'm telling you it's about sex? Because you're talking about naturalists and naturists. Oh, yeah, there it is. Yeah. And if there was going to be a naturist naturalist club walking around naked. So. And Lindsay's like, naturalists are naturalists. I'm like, oh, no, have I been saying it wrong? She's like, no, you're saying it right. A naturist is somebody who likes to be naked. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Really? [00:20:20] Speaker D: In nature. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Does that be nature? But I think. [00:20:25] Speaker D: I'm a naturist. [00:20:28] Speaker A: There you go. No, you mean naturalist. You're like, no, I don't. I mean naturalist. Look it up. [00:20:34] Speaker D: Yeah, look it up and get back to me. [00:20:38] Speaker C: Do you walk around your house naked, Ashley? [00:20:41] Speaker D: So I used to, but now I live with my current partner and their child. [00:20:46] Speaker A: So children. [00:20:47] Speaker D: That's. Yeah. So that's a no go anymore every time. Yeah, Yeah. I. I will say though, like, I miss it. I miss coming home, taking it all off and just chilling. I do miss it. [00:20:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Kara and Leah's mom is. Likes to be naked all the time. [00:21:03] Speaker D: Right on. [00:21:04] Speaker B: As a high school, we used to call them had the naked house. And Kara so comfortable naked. Sometimes she would be like, at my house with the bathroom door open, like, putting lotion on herself. And then I would look down the hall, like I'd be cooking her something with Kara, and she's like, oh, sorry, sorry. [00:21:20] Speaker A: I'm just. I'm just moisturizing you. [00:21:23] Speaker B: Lotion yourself up. [00:21:25] Speaker D: Can you just. So close, like, I'm trying to cook dinner. That's. That's so me. Yeah, that's so me. And we also have, if you don't know, in the Okanagan, there's some nude beaches. And I'm so thankful and grateful. My friends are like that as well. So we just go to the nude beaches in the summer. [00:21:44] Speaker A: That's nice. Yeah. [00:21:46] Speaker D: Yeah. And swimming in the lake is like. It really. It feels like a bath. [00:21:50] Speaker A: It's way better to swim naked than with a bathing suit on. Feels so good. [00:21:53] Speaker D: It feels great. It feels so much better. I feel so one with nature. For real. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, that's why that episode did well. That's all I'm saying. Nakedness. People want to hear about it. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Naked and merkins or merkins. Merkins and naked attraction were the title of that. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Dickie for your hickey. Dickey for your hickey. [00:22:17] Speaker B: All right, that's what we did. A dickey for your hickey. That's true. That's what we said. [00:22:23] Speaker D: Oh, my God. K. Wait. Speaking of dick, I was listening to one of our off the shelves recently. I think it was Lindsay. We were like, saying, like, another word for dick or something, and she was like. [00:22:38] Speaker A: Yelling the words. [00:22:39] Speaker B: It's an off the shelf game. [00:22:42] Speaker A: She just so. [00:22:44] Speaker B: Abram just kept on repeating it, like. And we're like, it's not that. Stop saying that. [00:22:51] Speaker D: Yelling cock so hard. Because it was so like. What's another word for. [00:22:59] Speaker B: I think it was for someone's name, like Richard or something. [00:23:02] Speaker D: What was it for again? [00:23:03] Speaker A: Richard. [00:23:04] Speaker D: Poor Richard. [00:23:05] Speaker B: She was like. And we're like, someone calls someone else. That's someone's name. [00:23:13] Speaker D: No, it was so good. I was laughing so hard at it. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Oh, that's really good. It always comes back to that, doesn't it? [00:23:22] Speaker B: Talking about sex. That's what made all of our most popular interruptions. I think so. Our most popular interruption on the YouTube station was Cara's quick Soak where she literally did an interruption in the bathtub because she's like, I'm back to group fitness. I hope this is not okay. I'll try not to show you my nakedness. [00:23:43] Speaker D: Okay. Love that for her. That's awesome. Great. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. [00:23:49] Speaker D: I gotta go look for that interruption. [00:23:51] Speaker B: The Next one was Lindsay's tough shift, which was kind of sad. That was Covid when they were shutting down and it was the last shift for everyone. Basically had to fire everybody. And then some lady threw food on you. [00:24:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:24:06] Speaker B: That was the second most popular interruption. Like, I had a rough day. [00:24:10] Speaker A: I had a rough day. [00:24:11] Speaker D: Just felt like the world was on you down. [00:24:15] Speaker C: I remember that. [00:24:16] Speaker B: You're like, I had to tell all my stuff. This is her last night because of COVID because we're shutting indoor dining. And then a lady didn't want to pay her bill and then decided to throw food at me when I tried to stop her. [00:24:26] Speaker A: Like, why? Is this my job? [00:24:28] Speaker C: Yep. [00:24:30] Speaker D: But it won't be after tonight. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:24:34] Speaker C: I'll have to re watch some of these now that you say them, because it feels like a lifetime. It also feels like yesterday you should. [00:24:41] Speaker B: Rewatch your interruptions because you were kind of really in it with COVID because you, even when you went back to. [00:24:49] Speaker A: Work, had that crazy, crazy face mask. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Remember the mask you had to wear? It was like, you're. [00:24:54] Speaker A: You're like an army person. [00:24:56] Speaker C: I have. I wore a mask and then a face shield and glasses. Yeah. They made us do this bowl on, like, PPEs. We're crazy. So, yes. I should reload the whole thing with COVID Even our, like, starting feels like this movie we all watched. We all survived. It was like a. I don't know, a futuristic movie that now doesn't exist anymore. [00:25:19] Speaker A: It felt like it was never going to end. And then now it just feels like it didn't happen almost. And people go, oh, yeah, that changed during COVID Yeah. That's weird, right? Do you remember what it was like? And they're like, no, I've completely blocked it. And I've. That trauma is just going to come up in 20 years. [00:25:37] Speaker D: When I have kids. It's going to come up. Yeah. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Back of my mind. So when I retire, that trauma can come forward. [00:25:46] Speaker A: What we need is, like, all the young kids to go into, like, therapy type professions, because in 20 years, it's all coming out. We are going to have an influx. [00:25:57] Speaker D: Well, with COVID even on the reserve here, we get a newsletter on things that are happening. Right. And we got a newsletter. And I remember during COVID it was like, we have one case of COVID on the reserve. Everyone has to stay home. No one's going to work. We're shutting down. And now it was something like. There was like 24 cases or something on the reserve. And then that was It. [00:26:19] Speaker A: It was just like 24 cases. Go party if you want. [00:26:22] Speaker D: No, seriously. And this is so crazy. We were in a pandemic where, like, people were dying because of this. And obviously it's so awesome that we have, like, a shot and people have immunity, but it's really crazy to think we were really locked down because of one case and now our community has, like, another. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Like, there's 24 by the bake sales going forward. [00:26:43] Speaker D: Christmas craft market happening. [00:26:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where people pick up everything and touch it. [00:26:50] Speaker D: Yes, it's totally samples. [00:26:53] Speaker A: Free samples are back. Oh, free samples. Being back is nice. You remember Costco? The kids be like, want to go to Costco for free samples? But they would just have the booth where. But you could eat the samples. Like, there's no samples. They were just like an advertisement of a lady standing there. But they weren't giving out samples. They're like, here's the thing. You could have sampled if it weren't for the pandemic. [00:27:13] Speaker D: That looks delicious. If you don't like it, touch it. [00:27:17] Speaker A: I'm sorry, Sarah, you were in the middle of some stats. [00:27:22] Speaker B: My migraine, for some reason, probably because people thought think my interruption is like giving them a cure to migraines, not just explaining how a migraine works and how I can function. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Like, oh, thank God. This lady's gonna help you with mine. Oh, she's in the same boat as me. I can't think. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Meredith number one. One, which is number five, was Meredith's bloody interruption. And it's when we were recording and Dan seriously injured himself. I was like, bleeding. And then after the episode, you're like, actually, we're just going to go to the doctor because I think he needs to stitches. [00:27:57] Speaker A: But you're like, at the same time. [00:27:59] Speaker B: I'm kind of glad he just dealt with it so I could finish the episode. [00:28:03] Speaker A: Yeah. This flap of skin he's trying to hold together with butterfly closures. He's like, oh, I gotta change the butterfly closure is not holding. And I was like, baby. [00:28:11] Speaker D: Like, he's stitching. We're going to the er. He cleaned it up and he went. [00:28:16] Speaker A: Back in with the kids. [00:28:18] Speaker D: Right. [00:28:19] Speaker A: That's a supportive partner. But I'm like, you need to go get stitches now. This is what the doctor said. He's like, well, he's like, that's a dog's breakfast. [00:28:29] Speaker D: It was so messy. [00:28:30] Speaker A: He wiped out on a pump track made of gravel, and he skidded on his elbow into the gravel. Anyway, he's got a pretty. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Pretty good cigar that's your popular one. And then the last of the top five. This is so funny. It's Leah's. And I think it's the funniest one. It's Leah telling us she couldn't make that one of the episodes. And she's like, sorry that I the bed. Literally and figuratively. Like, I guess I should have had that tuna whatever at midnight that's been sitting out for six hours. Like, she basically like, sorry I didn't show up. Like, I the bed. Like, I didn't show up. But also, I literally. My bed. So that's why I didn't show up. [00:29:09] Speaker A: And it was so funny the way she said it. And. [00:29:12] Speaker B: And she's like, in a dark room, so it's all, like, super moody. [00:29:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:16] Speaker B: So that was hers. And I had 100. [00:29:17] Speaker C: Hilarious. [00:29:18] Speaker D: Those are awesome. [00:29:20] Speaker C: Remember that episode where we picked actors that we thought were, like, each of us? I think it was six of the six of us at the time. And you all said that Leah looks like Claudia Schiffer. No, no, no. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:29:33] Speaker A: That's who she thinks she is. [00:29:34] Speaker C: Jennifer. Jennifer Lawrence. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, Jennifer. [00:29:37] Speaker C: Ever since then, every single time I see Jennifer Lawrence, I'm like, they do look alike. And I cannot get it out of my head that the two of them are the same. I don't know, doppelgangers for each other because they have the same, like, body languages and anyways, so you guys have all now made me Jennifer Lawrence and Leah. [00:29:55] Speaker A: Now I'm going to see that. [00:29:57] Speaker D: Well, when you watch the Hunger Games, you can just think of Leah. [00:30:00] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:01] Speaker B: And she picked that book. That was her book. Pick her and picked the same book. Remember when we were doing that vote? So then we did that one. We made her Katniss in the picture. [00:30:10] Speaker D: Yes. [00:30:12] Speaker A: People were like, where's the Photoshop? [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:16] Speaker D: I didn't have to edit anything. You guys just sent me a picture of her. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Like, it's all good. [00:30:24] Speaker B: That was actually a blog post of who's who. That's what we did. Like, who would be play who if they're famous? And I got a fake, you know, like a scammer saying something about copyright violations because of that blog post. And they wanted me to give them $10,000. [00:30:46] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:30:46] Speaker B: It was like, crazy. And I was like, what? And I freaked out. And I like, anyway, I was super diligent and then realized that it was a Shutterfly whatever. And I was like, no, wait, I have the rights to it because I. [00:30:59] Speaker D: Got it from there. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Then I told them to have It. Can you give me the code? I'm like, here's the code and whatever. But I was so freaked out by that that I literally took all the pictures off that blog post. I was so scared. You don't respond right away. We're gonna take a chew to court or give us a $10,000. [00:31:16] Speaker A: I was like, I read a lot about copyright. I was like, I think this is a scammer, but I will read through the copyright stuff for you. [00:31:24] Speaker C: Probably if you ignored them at the beginning, they would have just moved on. [00:31:29] Speaker B: We get lots of scammers, but at first, I looked up to see if this guy was really a lawyer, and he was like. He worked. He worked for some firm in Toronto. And I was like, oh, my God, is this a real thing? It's. Yeah, it's a scam. They're consultants that basically just go on hoping to collect money under copyright law, and they don't actually check if you have the copyright or anything. Like, they don't do any of the due diligence. They just hope to catch some people that don't. [00:31:58] Speaker D: That's shady as heck. [00:32:01] Speaker B: It was scary. [00:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker B: And then I took everything down, even. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Though I had it scary. Scammers, scary. [00:32:09] Speaker D: Like, please, just give me your bank info. [00:32:12] Speaker B: There's so many scammers that have approached us over the five years, I can't even begin to tell you a laundry list of them that contact me all the time. [00:32:20] Speaker A: When you started saying laundry, I thought you were gonna talk about some kind of laundry scam. Oh, you said list. I go, oh, yeah. That's a common term that people use. [00:32:30] Speaker C: Okay, I want to know. This is not scammer related, but yes. Did anybody ever call our phone number besides me and leave a voicemail in the five years? [00:32:42] Speaker B: No. [00:32:43] Speaker C: That's. [00:32:43] Speaker A: Shocked. [00:32:44] Speaker B: No, I just canceled it. And they're like, are you sure you want to cancel it? I was like, pretty sure, yeah. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Or Kim's mom. [00:32:53] Speaker B: She didn't end up just recording her. She didn't actually call. [00:32:55] Speaker A: See, here's. [00:32:56] Speaker B: She did a voice memo. [00:32:57] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:32:57] Speaker C: I think I tried to pretend I was somebody else. Right. [00:33:00] Speaker B: An old lady voice. I knew it was you right away because this is when she writes. Has left you a voice message because you called from your phone and it said your name, like, El Schweitzer. Okay, well, I know it's you. [00:33:15] Speaker C: I love it. [00:33:16] Speaker D: Like, how you did no effort to try and do, like, a private call, no caller I.D. nothing. You're like, no, I'm calling from my phone with the caller ID on. [00:33:26] Speaker C: Well, I wouldn't make a very good buy or whatever. [00:33:31] Speaker B: I can also do the stats for the podcast, which is different from the YouTube station. [00:33:36] Speaker D: Yes. [00:33:37] Speaker B: So that's how it works. So people can listen to our podcast on YouTube. And that doesn't come under my podcast stats. It doesn't. They're two separate things. So the actual podcast for the top books, I had to break it down to, like, the book cycles because it's really unfair because the first two seasons we did six episodes per book, and then the third season we did two episodes per book. And then season four and five, we did one episode per book. Like, we slowly, like, wheedled it down, I think, because the first two season was. It was killing me. We did an episode a week. [00:34:14] Speaker D: It was a lot of work. [00:34:15] Speaker B: So this for the six book cycles, the top ones are women who run with the wolves, then untamed, seeing red sapiens, white fragility, nonviolent communication, and the 4% fix. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Great. [00:34:31] Speaker B: Hi, Kara. Hello. [00:34:33] Speaker C: Hi, Kara. [00:34:35] Speaker E: And hi, guys. [00:34:36] Speaker A: Good to see you. [00:34:37] Speaker B: This interruption is brought to you by unpublished. Do you want to know more about the members and book Interrupted? Go behind the scenes. Visit our website at www.bookinterrupted.com. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Book interrupted. [00:34:53] Speaker E: This interruption is brought to you by technology and the younger generation's love of technology and the sharing and not sharing of technology. Oh, my goodness. I'm just trying to prepare in advance for the upcoming recording of the podcast. No biggie. 30 minutes in advance is plenty of time. No, no, it is not plenty of time. When your kids use your headphones routinely, use your AirPods routinely, lose one, if not both of AirPods, forget to charge headphones and then don't know where those, you know, those adapters where you can plug in a bunch of like, this is like a C cord and it connects to like a USB port and all that so that everything can be interconnected and talking to each other and working well. They also use those. My goodness gracious. I love my kids, but I do not like sharing my stuff with them. I wanted to be cool, calm and collected. I wanted to present my best self. And here I am having a temper tantrum and behaving like a young child, blaming them for my stressed out mood. No, it is not their fault, but it's really rubbing me the wrong way here, folks. I just want to be able to do a recording successfully. So you know what? Podcast recording, here I come. I'm holding myself together with duct tape. It's just gonna be raw, authentic me right I'll bring my messaging and what I'd like to share via pigeon carrier. I think that might work out better in the future. And thank you listeners for allowing me the time and space to venture this latest interruption. Feeling so much better, much more regulated and ready to go with whatever devices and technology are before me, which is probably not enough. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Book Interrupted. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Okay, so for the two episode cycles, the top one was the absolutely true. Diary of a Part Time Indian. The Handsmaid's Tale and then the Hunger Games. [00:37:25] Speaker D: Yep. [00:37:27] Speaker B: And then the single episodes, Eat, Pray Love was number one. Solutions and Other Problems was number two. Lessons in Chemistry was number three. Killers of the Flower Moon was number four. And Lola was number five. [00:37:45] Speaker D: Yeah, I made it in there. And then. [00:37:49] Speaker B: I know. And then off the Shelf. The top episodes of off the Shelf were Kirsten Karchmer was number one. Then it was Twilight Interrupted. So I forgot we did this. The Enemy and Graham game show that Leah and Kara created. You're Vanna White. Kara was Vanna White and Leah was Sajak. Oh, Pat Sajak. [00:38:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:14] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:38:14] Speaker A: Pulled that right out from the back. [00:38:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Episode four was with Karma Brown. That was a really good episode. You're talking with the 4% fix. But she was so great. Remember, she talked about baking and stuff. [00:38:26] Speaker A: So that was good. Good. She's so fun. [00:38:29] Speaker B: And then the last episode of the top five of off the Shelf was Two Truths and a Lie. [00:38:35] Speaker A: Oh. [00:38:36] Speaker D: Oh, nice. That's always a fun game. [00:38:38] Speaker A: I think I'm bad at it. [00:38:39] Speaker B: That one was a good episode because I told you guys all my crazy stories, like, I've been lit on fire and all this stuff. And like, all of my truths were clearly, like, so outrageous. [00:38:52] Speaker E: Hilarious. [00:38:53] Speaker A: 3 Ways I've Hurt myself. People are like, they all have to be lies. You're like, actually, they're all truths. Oh, my God. [00:39:04] Speaker B: I know. I twisted one to make it a. [00:39:06] Speaker A: Lie, but it was. [00:39:07] Speaker B: The horrible part of the accident was true. I just. I can't remember how I twisted it. [00:39:11] Speaker A: But anyway, fantastic. [00:39:13] Speaker B: I'll quickly do the author spotlight for that. That was kind of a coolest thing that we did the last two years is author spotlight, which we gave authors that might not be so big, like a platform, because they kept on trying to be on the show, but we. It just wasn't our format. We couldn't be like, come on our show and we'll tell you that we hate your book. Like, because we're just too honest about if we like the book or not. So I was like, that's not really Gonna work. We hate it. [00:39:37] Speaker A: I couldn't finish it, so someone's gonna hate it. Just like someone hated every book. [00:39:42] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. [00:39:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:44] Speaker B: We never agreed, actually. From the Ashes. Everyone loved that book. But I'll tell you what the top five of that one was. So the first one with Jay Watson and Kyle Wiltshire, the dead rock star. So they did a book about the 27 Club, all the rock stars that died. 27, actually, like, secret agents for the government. And they were really fun. And then they. Because they joked how many podcasts they've been on, and every time they go on a podcast, they sell, like, one book. They asked me after about, like, how easy is it to start a podcast? So I gave them some advice, and they started their own podcast. [00:40:16] Speaker A: Sweet. [00:40:18] Speaker D: So that was kind of cool. [00:40:20] Speaker A: We should link them in the show notes. [00:40:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes. Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are really fun, too. And they do all these things on pop culture and stuff. The next one was with Charles McCormick and the healing of a Psychotherapist. It was a memoir. The third was with Dr. Carrie Forrestal. He was our first author Spotlight, and his was called Crushing Cancer. So he was a cancer doctor, and he gave a detailed thing about, like, what to do if you have cancer and how you, like, navigate even the medical system in the States, which is kind of complicated, and how you make sure your bills get paid and all that kind of stuff. But he was interesting because we were reading the Mortal Life at Henrietta Lax at the same time, and he said something, and you know the part where they stop a whole bunch of radiation up your yaku? He was like, no, that's true. And I was like, we're reading that book right now. I can't believe it. He's like, oh. And then he went on, because he's read the book too. He's like, all of that's very true. That's what they used to do. Horrific. And then another one was from Lucas Kessling, Words with My Father. And that's a memoir about his father who passed. But he wrote the book with him when he was around, and he was a civil rights protester and all that kind of stuff. And then the last one was Lucian Laser, the Framework. It's kind of like the 4% fix. But he was so awesome because he's like, I created a system where if you don't have the motivation to exercise or even have a walk, you can watch a video of someone exercising, and then you've accomplished your goal. So then you don't lose momentum. That was actually a great idea because you know how karma was, like, even if you go to bed five minutes early, like, baby step it. So his baby step was watch a. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Video of someone else exercising. [00:42:02] Speaker B: And that's great. [00:42:04] Speaker C: I don't know about that. [00:42:07] Speaker A: I liked him a lot. [00:42:08] Speaker B: He was the first author that gave us a donation. So that's how we started doing donations. Because he was like, that was amazing. I'm gonna send you money. And I was like, oh, great. I never thought about. Yeah, I'll send that to all the authors. Be like, if you want to make a donation to support the channel, here's our PayPal. And he offered it. Like, I'd never even. I just wanted to help people out. [00:42:28] Speaker A: But also get everybody, you know to subscribe, please. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And then our podcast has listeners in 86 countries around the world. That's almost all the countryside are so many countries. Isn't that amazing? I know. Every time I look at it, I'm like, I can't believe we have people in these small, tiny countries that listen to us. So the top 10 is US. Canada, Senegal, India, Tunisia, the UK Singapore, Germany, China, and Spain. Those are the top 10. [00:43:00] Speaker D: Yeah, I know. [00:43:02] Speaker A: It's just possible that one day I'll cross paths with somebody and they'll go, meredith, oh, there was a girl. This podcast, I'd be like, that's me, right? Like, you just don't know. You might meet one of these people maybe just saying. It's just like a strange thing that people you don't know have heard you say really stupid things. They'll have an idea of who you are before you have. They are. [00:43:26] Speaker B: I know I could be walking down the street and someone being like, twilight. [00:43:29] Speaker A: And I'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, let's talk about it. Anybody wants to talk about Twilight? Sarah's in. I read Twilight during the summer. Sarah's like, remember you said that if I want that you would read Twilight so I could talk to you about it? I was like, yeah. I was like, no, I don't remember that, but I will buy it. So I did buy it and read it. [00:43:49] Speaker D: Did you? [00:43:50] Speaker A: I did. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Do you think it kind of is similar to Pride and Prejudice vibes? [00:43:54] Speaker A: I hated it. [00:43:59] Speaker D: No. [00:44:00] Speaker C: Shocking. [00:44:02] Speaker E: There's always one person that hates the book. [00:44:05] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, no. [00:44:07] Speaker B: I knew she would. That's why I was like, make merit. [00:44:10] Speaker A: But now she wants to talk to me about it. She can still talk with me about Twilight. We have a relationship. I read it so she could Be like, remember this. I'll be like, yeah, I remember it. Remember when I hated it? [00:44:22] Speaker C: I didn't like it. [00:44:23] Speaker E: I do remember it. And I hated it. [00:44:25] Speaker A: It's on my bookshelf. I kept it even. [00:44:27] Speaker B: I'm kind of over Twilight now because I did it so much. Like, I'm over it because I consumed everything you could consume, and there's no more coming. So it's like I'm kind of over it. Well, like, at least with the Ashley's, the Hunger Games, they keep on coming up with more stuff. So you can get me obsessed with it. [00:44:45] Speaker D: Yeah, right. No, I feel so bad for you because as a Hunger Games fan, or even I was thinking a Harry Potter family, because I grew up on those two. The Harry Potter. They're coming out with a TV show. Harry Potter I was so obsessed with when I was a kid. Now I get to re. Get into that. And then with the Hunger Games in my teens, I got to obsess over it. And then every five to 10 years, they're coming out with new stuff too. So I. My whole life, I'm gonna be able to obsess over it. And I just love that. [00:45:14] Speaker E: For me, yeah, there's just something, like, reassuring. And it feels so good to know that there can be this unlimited supply of indulgences. Even when it comes to, like, choosing, like, something to watch on Netflix or whatever, I'm like, what? It only has two seasons. [00:45:32] Speaker D: I'm out. [00:45:33] Speaker E: I don't even want. [00:45:34] Speaker D: Totally started. [00:45:35] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:45:36] Speaker D: Mm. [00:45:37] Speaker A: It's a high bar that you set Kara, with Twilight. [00:45:41] Speaker D: What is there, four movies, Five movies or something? Even though that is a lot of movies, the world stops at the end of that movie. Whereas with the Hunger Games, we're still adding on to this world and we're expanding on it, which I think is so amazing. So it makes it that much more exciting. I feel like. [00:45:58] Speaker B: No, I think so too. I was excited to read Sunrise and the Reaping because I could kind of obsess about something. I even try to read popular fantasy books. I'm trying that now to keep trying to find one that I get really hooked on. So we'll see. I got the one that you said. [00:46:15] Speaker C: Have you read the dragon one? Did you read the one that I suggested? [00:46:18] Speaker B: I got it. [00:46:19] Speaker E: What's the dragon one? [00:46:20] Speaker B: Yeah, the fourth win. Right? [00:46:22] Speaker C: The fourth wing. [00:46:24] Speaker D: I've heard nothing but good things. [00:46:25] Speaker B: I have that book. I was waiting for this to end because it's a bit big, and so I wanted to have time to really so I'm hoping that's my next obsession. I need something to be obsessed about. I just do. I still obsessed about Jane Austen. [00:46:40] Speaker A: How many books are there? [00:46:42] Speaker C: There's three of them, and there's more coming out, so it fills. [00:46:46] Speaker A: The dragons are so hot right now. [00:46:48] Speaker D: So hot right now. Seriously. [00:46:51] Speaker A: My daughter's obsessed with this thing called Wings of Fire, and they have novels, and they have graphic novels, so. And so that's all she wanted for her birthday, was all of the graphic novels in French and English for her birthday. [00:47:04] Speaker E: So it's a family trait. It's a family thing. No, it's so true, though. Like, dragons, mystical creatures in general. They're just fantastic. [00:47:15] Speaker D: Oh, she's a girl dragon. [00:47:18] Speaker A: She's a girl dragon. [00:47:20] Speaker D: That's from Shrek. [00:47:21] Speaker A: It is, Yes. A donkey. Donkey. [00:47:26] Speaker C: Dragon. [00:47:27] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:28] Speaker D: I didn't fall. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Okay, cool. [00:47:30] Speaker B: I had no other Shrek. [00:47:31] Speaker C: So, Sarah, do you want to name all the books? [00:47:33] Speaker B: I'm gonna do that, and then I have some questions, so we kind of have to get to those. But I'll do the books first. I'm gonna go by person. Book pick. So it kind of breaks it down for everyone. So my book picks over the years were Women who Run with the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estes. Talking to Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell. The Handsmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. I should say. Also the banned book season. We voted. We had everybody's picks because Kara Leah picked the same book. A Long Way home from Shuru Brierly. Did we determine how to say his name? [00:48:08] Speaker A: Brierly. [00:48:08] Speaker B: And the Change by Kristen Miller, which was so good because Henry. [00:48:14] Speaker D: Yeah. So good. [00:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:15] Speaker D: Yes. [00:48:16] Speaker B: Who I want to be when I grow Up. Revenge, even though she kills people. But Lindsay's book. Picks for Seeing Red by Kirsten Karchmer. Fun Home by Alison Bischell. How do we say her last name? We figured that one out, too. [00:48:29] Speaker D: Bechtel something. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Bechtel, right? It was Bechtel. The Hating Game by Sally Throne. [00:48:37] Speaker C: It's a bad ones. [00:48:38] Speaker B: And We Ripped the World Apart by Charlene Carr. [00:48:41] Speaker A: That was good. [00:48:42] Speaker C: That was a good one. [00:48:43] Speaker B: No, the Hating Game is a popular episode on YouTube. Probably because people love that. People love that movie and book. Just. We didn't. [00:48:52] Speaker D: The general public loves that book. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I should not have listened to the audiobook. But the audiobook was too. I'm using a sexy voice. The whole time. I was like, oh, my God. [00:49:09] Speaker B: I am out. I read it. [00:49:12] Speaker A: I didn't listen. [00:49:13] Speaker D: No, I. Oh, God, I have so Many issues with that book. I love you so much, Lindsay. Just that book was. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I like that. It was like a bit of a. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Departure, but also not because all of. [00:49:22] Speaker A: Our podcasts, we just go. Go off topic and talk about dicks and sex and whatever. [00:49:27] Speaker D: Merkins. [00:49:28] Speaker A: So, you know, you'd think it would have been a fit. But anyway. [00:49:32] Speaker C: And it may have been the most hated book. [00:49:35] Speaker A: I think it was the hating book. [00:49:37] Speaker C: The Hating Game was probably the most hated book. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Nobody liked it. You didn't even like it the second time. [00:49:43] Speaker C: Maybe. That or Fun Home. [00:49:44] Speaker B: I think everybody hated Fun Home. Had some. [00:49:47] Speaker A: I liked Fun Home. [00:49:48] Speaker C: But also Seeing Red was probably one of their tops, so. [00:49:53] Speaker E: Oh, I love Seeing Red. [00:49:54] Speaker C: The top at the bottom. [00:49:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. That was one of the tops for sure. So, Meredith. Non Violent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg, what the Robin Knows by John Young, the Giver by Lois Lowry, the Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot and Solutions and Other Problems by Ali Brosh. [00:50:18] Speaker A: Awesome. Mine were very polarizing too. I would like to say that what the Robin Knows is probably one that everybody would least likely read if not on this podcast. But also people end up using it whether they wanted to or not. [00:50:32] Speaker C: So true. [00:50:33] Speaker E: Right? [00:50:35] Speaker A: It affected how you experience the world. So true. [00:50:39] Speaker E: It was an impactful book. [00:50:41] Speaker A: If you don't want to read this book, listeners, you should try it. Because you'd be like, what am I reading? And then you'd be like, why did I read that? And then the birds will start giving you messages. [00:50:50] Speaker C: I still, when I'm around that, I'm in the city a lot. But if I'm in the somewhere where there's less people and you can hear the birds and I hear them making sounds to each other, I'm like, oh, they're alerting each other because I'm here. And I was like, that's from that book, somebody. [00:51:04] Speaker D: Right? [00:51:05] Speaker E: Same. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Yeah, completely. That book stayed with me the longest because I do that constantly. I'm like, oh, the birds are giving a warning all the time. I'm constantly listening to the birds. I'm obsessed with them a little bit now, but at the same time, reading the tweeting was like, if it was an audiobook with real birds doing the sounds, it would be amazing. But because there's no. Because I was trying very hard at that book. I even went to the website to see the bird sounds and was. It wouldn't load right and it wasn't organized very well. And I was like, this is bullshit. Like, I can't. I don't know what that bird sounds like. Why am I reading all these tweets? It doesn't make any sense. [00:51:49] Speaker E: You actually get pissed off at stuff like that. So with the how do you pronounce birds? And then what was the book? The Big Friendly Giant, when he did the mumbo jumbo, like gibberish talk, you hated that and then started to edit yourself when you'd read it to your kids. That's like a real activator for you, eh? You get all. Look at you, all worked up. [00:52:12] Speaker B: I was like, what the hell is this? [00:52:13] Speaker D: Like, what? [00:52:14] Speaker B: This is not even a word. And they'd be like, what does that mean? I'm like, it means nothing. [00:52:19] Speaker D: It's not even a word. [00:52:21] Speaker E: Don't make me send in the birds. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Did that follow the banned book season, or was that before the banned book season where you decided to. To censor the BFG for your children? [00:52:32] Speaker E: It is ironic, right? [00:52:33] Speaker C: It's perfect. [00:52:34] Speaker B: It's nonsense. [00:52:36] Speaker A: I'm just joking. It is hard to read it out loud. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Totally brutal. I will never do it again because I think I had to finish it. So I was like, kind of on a deadline. Whereas when I read before, when they're really little, it didn't matter and they weren't old enough to be like, what does that word mean? And blah, blah. They would just listen to the story. [00:52:56] Speaker D: But. [00:52:56] Speaker B: But because they're older, they like, especially my son, he's one of those question kids. He just wants to know all of it. So he'd be like, I don't. What does that word mean? Explain it to me. And I'm like, it means nothing. Let's move on. And then eventually I just substituted the word it should be. Because I'm like, I just need to get through this stupid story. I got so bad. Yeah. [00:53:18] Speaker D: Your kids are going to be like, well, the BSG said this. [00:53:21] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:53:23] Speaker B: But yeah, I got mad at the Robin book too, for the same reason. None of this means anything to me anyway. [00:53:31] Speaker A: All right. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Hara's Books Untamed by Glennon Doyle, where you're riding the cheetah in your picture that Jessica made you. That was the best. [00:53:40] Speaker A: I love it. [00:53:41] Speaker E: It was great. [00:53:42] Speaker A: Really great picture. [00:53:43] Speaker E: Jessica, you did so well with all of those pictures. That was such a highlight of every season. It's great. [00:53:55] Speaker B: That's what I knew it was going to be super fun because that was the first season and you came back with those. And I was like, holy shit. [00:54:01] Speaker A: Holy shit. [00:54:02] Speaker B: And you're like, don't worry. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Just have fun with it like, no big deal. No, it's like, no, we're doing this. [00:54:11] Speaker B: I was saying behind the scenes before we started to Jessica that I knew I could send her anything when I sent Kim's Mischief Eagle testicle picture, and it was a wrecking ball. And I was like, can you make the wrecking ball flesh color to look like a testicle? But not so obvious that we'll be censored. And if this is really inappropriate, I apologize. Like, I understand if you don't feel comfortable doing that. And she's like, no problem. And I was like, oh, I'm on it. I can send her anything. [00:54:41] Speaker E: Okay. [00:54:42] Speaker D: Yeah, great. No problem. [00:54:44] Speaker E: That's a good working relationship right there, right? [00:54:48] Speaker D: That's right. [00:54:49] Speaker A: It's solid. And it's of no coincidence that I met you all through Leah, because that's just right. Yeah. [00:54:56] Speaker B: It just makes all sides. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Everyone's like, yeah, that checks out. Hilarious. Sorry, Sarah. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Okay, finish, Kara. So Untamed. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:55:06] Speaker B: Glennon Doyle. Burnout by Emily and Emelia Nagoski. The Hunger Games, Collins. [00:55:14] Speaker D: Incredible. [00:55:18] Speaker B: The BFG by Roald Dahl. And Nobody Cries at Bingo by Don Dumont. [00:55:23] Speaker A: I love that. [00:55:24] Speaker D: Hilarious. [00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it was so hilarious. [00:55:26] Speaker B: So Leah's book picks Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari. Fantastic. Her picture for that one was so great because she dressed herself like a caveman and gave herself a unibrow. [00:55:40] Speaker E: It was so good. [00:55:42] Speaker A: She's wearing fur. Yeah. It was so great. [00:55:46] Speaker B: And we made her with some sort. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Of crazy caveman that looked so sketchy. [00:55:50] Speaker B: It was so great. And I remember Kim on the behind the scenes video. She's like, I don't know how you did it, but you're like, the hottest, sexiest cave woman ever. Like, holy. [00:56:03] Speaker D: Totally. How? [00:56:04] Speaker A: It's true. [00:56:05] Speaker D: It's Leah. [00:56:06] Speaker B: She's like, I think cavemen use this Mac color. Yeah. What happened to you? By Oprah and Dr. Bruce Perry. [00:56:17] Speaker A: That was rough. [00:56:18] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:56:19] Speaker E: That was rough. [00:56:19] Speaker A: Too much trauma. [00:56:20] Speaker B: That was the only book I never finished. [00:56:24] Speaker A: I was just, like, so triggering. [00:56:27] Speaker B: I remember halfway. And then eventually I called mayor, and I was like, there's hope at the end of this book, right? People with trauma have hope of healing. And she was like, there's no hope in this book. Stop reading. [00:56:37] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, okay. [00:56:40] Speaker B: I know. [00:56:40] Speaker A: I remember reading and thinking like, I don't think Sarah should read this book. Oh, this is too much. Is there hope? [00:56:48] Speaker C: No. [00:56:49] Speaker A: I was like, you're not ready to, like, bring up all your trauma. Don't read it. Thank you, Oprah. [00:56:56] Speaker E: Thanks, Oprah. Yeah. I don't think they did a good job at alerting readers in advance, which would have been helpful. They just kind of like dove right in. And also there is hope. Just include afterwards, like just even a one paragraph thing of inspiration. Right. [00:57:17] Speaker A: The next book to read in this is something about doing work, working on yourself, how to find a therapist. [00:57:24] Speaker B: Maybe triggered your entire life and there's no escaping it. However, these are the healing things that'll make the triggers last or something. It was like, no, forever. [00:57:35] Speaker D: You got f docs and you will. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Continue to be effed up. [00:57:38] Speaker C: And I think Leah felt bad that she picked up, which I don't think she realized. And she was like, oh, sorry, guys, sorry. [00:57:45] Speaker A: It was Oprah. Pick Oprah. [00:57:48] Speaker D: To have a whole book where it's just like. And then there's no hope. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it was bad because I tried to talk about the book and then I just broke down. Like the whole. Like I was sobbing actually on that episode. Like, it was like Leo felt super bad. I was like, oh, just take a. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Break, Take a break here. I'll be fine in a minute. [00:58:09] Speaker B: Once I find my hope. [00:58:11] Speaker D: Yeah, it's the worst. [00:58:14] Speaker A: That was the second season. We're still like pandemicy back then. People are. Yeah, people were being triggered all the time and having to sit in there by themselves. [00:58:27] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:58:28] Speaker D: You gotta drop it alone. Yeah. [00:58:32] Speaker A: Okay. [00:58:32] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:58:33] Speaker D: Just here with my big feelings by myself. [00:58:35] Speaker E: Yeah, for sure. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Yeah. That one was something. I forgot about it until recently. [00:58:40] Speaker B: Me too. I. I literally blocked it out. What other book did Leah do? I had to look it up. [00:58:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:58:45] Speaker A: This morning I go, oh, yeah, that one. Okay. Right. [00:58:52] Speaker D: Okay. [00:58:53] Speaker B: Then she also picked the Hunger Games like Cara. So we did that in the banned book season. And then Eat Pray Love, she picked By Elizabeth Gilbert. [00:59:01] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. [00:59:01] Speaker B: For the movie one. And then Kim's books, she did from the Ashes by Jesse Thistle, which I think still is the only book we all anonymously loved. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Unanimously. [00:59:14] Speaker E: It's amazing. [00:59:16] Speaker A: Unanimously. [00:59:17] Speaker B: What did I say? [00:59:18] Speaker A: Anonymously. We openly. [00:59:20] Speaker C: We openly loved it. [00:59:21] Speaker B: We all loved it. No, yeah, we're very transparent about it. [00:59:27] Speaker D: We openly. [00:59:30] Speaker C: So funny. [00:59:31] Speaker B: They called me number one by Bev Sellers. Oh, we should also say Kim made. So the first season she made like. Because remember she was doing that course for reconciliation and she decided that her book picks for book and directed. We're going to be using her platform to highlight indigenous people for part of her reconciliation. So Jesse Thistle's from the Ashes. The next one was they Called Me Number One by Bev Stellers. That was a really hard one to read. [01:00:00] Speaker F: That was. [01:00:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was. That book's about residential schools. The third season was the absolute true Diary of a Part Time Indian by Sherman Alexi. Then Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann. And the last one was the Memoirs of Mischief Eagle Testicle by Kent Monkman and Giselle Gordon. That was pretty cool. [01:00:20] Speaker A: That was good. [01:00:20] Speaker D: Oh, we never saw the. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Remember Lindsay, you were gonna bring the book so I could see the art and we never did that. [01:00:26] Speaker C: Oh, shoot. [01:00:27] Speaker B: I've only seen the art online. Keep on forgetting because I listened to the audiobook on that one. Yeah. And then finally the fans, Ashley. [01:00:38] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:00:38] Speaker B: So yeah, we had five fan hosts over the five years. So the first one was White Fragility by Robin d'. Angelo. So that was Squiggy's book pick and the Stumble Forward. The Next was the 4% fix by Carmen Brown. And that was Lindsay. Fan Lindsay. Remember we called her Fan Lindsay. Her name was Lindsay. Then was the Midnight Library by Matt Haig. And that was Virginia's book pick. So Virginia, like Ashley came back every year. So unlike Ashley, she came back once a year and then sometimes her off the shelves and different things or books she's already read. Unlike Ashley who just is a full member now that she goes. [01:01:22] Speaker D: Yeah. Also the Midnight Library is one of my favorite books, isn't it? Yes. It's so good. [01:01:29] Speaker E: I was thinking about it the other day. Yeah. And I was like, like, gosh, I love that book. [01:01:34] Speaker D: Yeah, it's so good. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Sorry to interrupt you all, but I have to hop off. But it was such a darn pleasure chatting with you all and congratulations on the five years and everything. And I've had such a pleasure and so many laughs doing these like covers for you all and working on the website. So I just want to say you all rock. [01:01:55] Speaker D: Thank you for working with me. [01:01:57] Speaker E: Thank you so much. [01:02:00] Speaker B: Okay, so Midnight Library by Matt Haig. So that was Virginia's book pick. And then she came back on again and did Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmis. Did you ever read that, Lindsay? [01:02:12] Speaker C: I did, yeah, I read it. [01:02:14] Speaker A: I loved it. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Did you like it? [01:02:16] Speaker C: I really loved it. I thought it was really good. I quite enjoyed it. I haven't watched the show because I know you guys were doing. You all told me not to watch it, so. [01:02:25] Speaker A: So it's just kind of a waste of your time. [01:02:29] Speaker C: Yeah, but I thought the book was really good. I actually gave it to my mom and my mother in law for Christmas as well. And they all Read it. So, yeah, I thought it was really good. [01:02:40] Speaker D: So. [01:02:41] Speaker C: But way after you guys read it. [01:02:43] Speaker B: Okay. And then Virginia's other book pick was the Women by Kristin Hannah. [01:02:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:50] Speaker B: So Ashley came on right after Virginia and she did When Dad Killed mom for the banned book Season by Julius Lester. And then she stayed for all of our other books and then continued to pick books as well for the rest of the season. So her other book picks are the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by Susan Collins. [01:03:11] Speaker D: So good. Yes, of course. [01:03:15] Speaker B: And that was books with movies. That season was booked with movies. Then you came on with Lola for our For Women by Women About Women by Melissa Scribner. [01:03:27] Speaker D: Yes. [01:03:28] Speaker B: And then our final fan was Rianne, although she thought she was going to come to this. [01:03:33] Speaker A: She's always busy. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Because her last interruption, she sent me an interruption. It was basically like she has a full time job of 50 hours a week, took on a new project, like sign a new contract for a new project to do on the side, and is renovating her house currently. [01:03:47] Speaker D: That's crazy. [01:03:48] Speaker B: So her book was so crazy. Can we take the two hours you have in the month just to come. [01:03:55] Speaker E: Back on, you know, your only free time? [01:03:59] Speaker A: She's just like hammering things while she's. [01:04:01] Speaker B: You want to come on here? [01:04:02] Speaker A: I gotta build this thing. [01:04:07] Speaker B: Her book was the Deep by River Solomon. [01:04:10] Speaker D: Right? That's right. [01:04:11] Speaker B: Those were the books, I have to say. [01:04:13] Speaker C: So Lola was my very first audiobook that I listened to. And I said, I'm never gonna listen to another audiobook. And then I listened to one of the other books on audio. Forget which one. And then now Laird and I, before bed, we've been listening to audio, but, like, we'll just have an audiobook that we. Stupid stuff. Like Dan Brown, like, he did the Da Vinci Code, his, like, new book, we listen to, like something that's like light and fluffy, but we'll just play it. Or when we're driving, because it's just something to do when we're driving to Montreal for six hours or driving to my parents for an hour and a half. We'll just play it. So I have now listened to like five audiobooks. [01:04:51] Speaker E: What? [01:04:51] Speaker B: Look at that. [01:04:52] Speaker C: That, Ashley, that's. That's all because of you and the Lola book. So evolving. [01:04:57] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:04:58] Speaker D: Yeah. There are some people who really put the effort into audiobook and then there are ones that don't hit as well. So. Yeah. That's awesome that you're expanding that. [01:05:08] Speaker B: When we first started, when I was learning to do podcasting before we launched that year before, that's when I started listening to audiobooks. Because before I didn't, but because it was so hard in Senegal to find books and I was running out of books that I wanted to read. Like, that year before we started Book Interrupted, I had just started audiobooks, and now it's like I always have an audiobook going and an actual book at all times. [01:05:32] Speaker D: Totally. [01:05:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:33] Speaker B: I love audiobooks so much. [01:05:36] Speaker A: So I was watching our first episode, the video episode, and we were reading, like, Women who Run with the Wolves, which was like the catalyst for this podcast. For those who haven't listened to the first episode, Sarah kind of started this podcast because she read this book and she wanted to share it with people. And half of us were like, ah, we don't like this book. And the other half were like, we love it. I remember doing this book and I've always had, like this complicated relationship with being considered a woman. The expectations, whatever. I don't feel like I fit into the stereotype. When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a boy. But now, five years later, I realize that I think that I just don't really consider gender as an important part of my identity. And I realize that some people just really feel like their gender is part of who they are. And I've realized that I don't. So I feel like now, five years later, after reading this book, I don't really have a complicated feeling about gender either way. I'm just kind of like, whatever. I thought I would say that because I was, like, looking at my old self. I was like, man, that book really threw me for a loop. Just like some of the books that we read on here threw everybody for a loop. Not just like, what happened to you, but for some people are like, this book is not for me now. And I think that's one of the things we said on a lot of the episodes. This is not the book for me right now. It all came down to that. Right? [01:06:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:06:54] Speaker E: That's a huge insight. It's like, who are you? In a moment often dictates, like, your interpretation, your meaning making. I think it's great that you raised that, like, just so it's like open ended to, like, anyone who's listening and also to ourselves to, like, revisit books. Sometimes you just won't know. [01:07:14] Speaker A: Carrie, you should revisit that episode. Because in that episode there was tears where Leah was like, I just want to say that I'm so proud of Kara because she is living this, where she figured out who she Was. And I couldn't be prouder, you guys. [01:07:30] Speaker E: Oh, my gosh. [01:07:31] Speaker A: A long way. Because you went back to school and you changed everything you were doing, and you're there now five years later. What you started out on five years ago is where you are now. Right. [01:07:43] Speaker E: And like, that's mess. [01:07:44] Speaker A: Like, think about, like, the things that Lindsay has accomplished since now. She was like, oh, I'm going to start doing sommelier stuff. And now she's like, the tops. [01:07:52] Speaker C: She's about the tops, but pretty close. [01:07:55] Speaker E: What is it? [01:07:56] Speaker A: So our W set. I don't know. [01:07:59] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:07:59] Speaker A: What's it called that you have? [01:08:01] Speaker B: What is it called? [01:08:03] Speaker C: It's my W set. Diploma in wine. [01:08:05] Speaker D: But. [01:08:06] Speaker A: But that thing. You've accomplished so much. What happened in five years is kind of amazing. I just want to say we've come a long way. And some of those earlier episodes, if we go and look at it, we're like, oh, oh, man, look how young we not only look, because I sort of like, oh. Because my nose grows faster than the rest of my body. So you can really tell how old I am by how. How close I am to that. That crony witch in the. In the forest. That's gonna be me as an old lady. I'm gonna look like a Baba Yaga in the forest. That's why I build a house on. So people understand what has happened here. But also our personalities have changed quite a bit since. But not a lot. But it's funny watching yourself on video because get on videos from the previous years. Except for now, like, five years. Do I have a video from when I was 17? Like, I don't know if I'd want to look at those videos, but it's just interesting to seeing how you kind of change or you're, you know, your mannerisms are kind of the same, but they kind of change a little bit too. [01:09:02] Speaker E: I know it does. It happens, like, incrementally, bit by bit. [01:09:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:06] Speaker E: And you don't always notice things. [01:09:07] Speaker A: How far we've come type thing. Right. [01:09:11] Speaker B: And then also, when I look back, I finally had the balls to grow up my natural hair. [01:09:16] Speaker C: I think it's cool too, that, like, we can see that all of us have done so much in the last five years. I mean, most of you have raised children. Like, think of five years ago, your children, and think of five years ago, education and our decision making. And like, we were always all badass women. And we are even more. More badass boss women now. I think all of us, you know, I think that's Pretty cool that we have kept in touch with all. All of each other and grown together and supported each other in all of these things. You know, with Kara being like, I'm so stressed and I can't do it. We're all like, you can do it. And Sarah and all her projects and Kim and Mare and her building of her, I don't know, tree houses and all the projects. Mare does so many. It's not just that we're accomplishing all these things in the last five years. It's also that we've all been around to support each other in all of that. And I think that's, you know, we're not just talking about books here. We have been talking about books and our lives and. See, I'm getting emotional. And, like, that's really cool that we were all here together to support each other through the pandemic and through all the crappy times and the good times and the celebrating the achievements and being there to, like, hold each other up when things were hard while reading the books. And I think that's really what Sarah wanted to accomplish. Go, you know, starting. And that's, I think, what happened. So thank you, Sarah, for. For doing that. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Yes, well said. [01:10:47] Speaker E: Well said. [01:10:48] Speaker C: That is. [01:10:48] Speaker B: That's exactly. Yeah. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Anyway, I wanted to bring up that retrospective a little bit before we left, but I also have this video ready for. And we'll see if we can get this audio going. Okay, here she is. [01:11:01] Speaker B: We Book Interrupted. I'm so glad to have been a. [01:11:05] Speaker E: Part of this journey. [01:11:06] Speaker B: From the humble beginnings of a COVID. [01:11:09] Speaker E: Lockdown to now, it's been quite a journey. [01:11:13] Speaker B: And happy days and more ahead. See you guys. [01:11:18] Speaker E: Bye. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Oh, that's nice. Do we have something from Virginia? [01:11:24] Speaker B: I'll read it. Yeah. So she wrote, sadly, she won't be able to make it. She's like, I'm super bum. Won't be able to make it. And to see you and all the women one last time together, this has been such a delightful, interesting experience. Getting to be part of what you created with Book Interrupted. I've loved every minute I was able to join. Thank you. I will always be wishing you and your family all the very best and happiness in the world. I can't remember. Wait to see what lies ahead for you. She was sending this text to me. I'm like, can I share that? And she's like, yes, you can. But can you add this? I will miss this amazing group of remarkable women you brought together to chat not only about books, but also about parenting, challenges, social justice issues and a million fun things in between. Thanks so much, Virginia. [01:12:15] Speaker D: That's so sweet. Yeah, Very sweet words. Isn't it? [01:12:20] Speaker B: Every time we do recaps, I make this super long list of questions. And we never do because we're just like, I should know better. We never go on script ever. We always go like. [01:12:30] Speaker E: It's like what we do go off script. [01:12:34] Speaker C: How about what's our favorite? What was our favorite book and our least favorite book? Can we do that? [01:12:38] Speaker B: Let's do favorite book, favorite book of all the seasons and least favorite. Who wants to go first? [01:12:44] Speaker A: You don't have to say least favorite. [01:12:46] Speaker B: Fine. No, least favorite. You always want to do least favorite. That's Lindsey. [01:12:50] Speaker D: My least favorite was the Hating Game. [01:12:53] Speaker B: I hate that. [01:12:56] Speaker D: I hated the characters. I hated the story. There is this wave of feminism going on right now where it's like being independent as your own person without a partner. And there was actually a article that came out in one of the magazines or online blogs or whatever where it's like, actually embarrassing now. Now to have a boyfriend. And I just want the main character of the Hating Game to read that because that guy was not it. Okay, that. So that book. [01:13:32] Speaker E: Amazing. [01:13:33] Speaker D: That's so good. [01:13:34] Speaker C: Okay, well, Ashley, what was your favorite then? [01:13:36] Speaker D: Okay, my favorite. And while I do want to say Hunger Games are Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, I'm gonna say the change because I was so shocked by that book. I loved it so much. I still think about that book. [01:13:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:52] Speaker D: And it's something that I would reread. I tell my friends about it all the time. It actually has encouraged me to read different genres. And I found another book from that book that I really like as well. So that one for sure is. That one surprised me the most. So I'm gonna say that one. [01:14:09] Speaker A: Nice. [01:14:09] Speaker B: Awesome. [01:14:10] Speaker D: Yes. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Okay, Mayor, you go. [01:14:12] Speaker A: I don't like the idea of favorites, but they had a lot that I liked. Like, I really liked Lessons in Chemistry and Sapiens was so fantastic. So I'm just looking back. I mean, we are all saved from that. I actually recommended from the Ashes to somebody like a stranger recently. He was like. Had read something similar, and I was like, oh, you might like this book too, so. Oh, I don't know. They're all good. But obviously the bird one sticks with me a lot. But yeah, you bought the kids, like, the kids version of Sapiens, and they loved it. So, like, we actually talk about stuff in there a lot as a family. Like just over casual conversation, it comes up, which is kind of cool. I didn't like what happened to you. Obviously, we talked about that. I don't like talking about all the things I don't like because it feels bad, so. [01:15:02] Speaker D: Oh. [01:15:02] Speaker A: But I do want to say that I do like the stories in here. I was just, like, perusing this, and I was like, all these little stories are great. And my kids recently got the Baba Yaga graphic novel out of the library, and they love it. I was like, it's due back. And they're like, it's got to go back. No, I was like, okay, so Baba Yaga, you know, has an appeal. [01:15:21] Speaker E: Baba Yaga for the win. [01:15:22] Speaker A: For the win. [01:15:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:15:24] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:15:24] Speaker B: All right. She's an interesting character. [01:15:27] Speaker C: I really liked the Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks. That was probably one of my favorites. I felt like I learned a lot. I thought the story. It was written very well. Yeah. I would probably say that was one of my favorites. I mean, there was lots of ones that I really liked. There was also lots of ones that I really didn't like. [01:15:45] Speaker A: I know, but I would say I'm. [01:15:48] Speaker C: Like, one of the ones that disliked the most books. [01:15:50] Speaker A: I would. [01:15:51] Speaker C: Kara. I would probably say Ms. Glennon, Doyle and Dame was probably. [01:15:58] Speaker A: I was a polarizing book because you. [01:16:00] Speaker C: Guys loved it so much, and I was like. I mean, I also. Yeah, I could probably go on about the books I didn't love either, but. [01:16:07] Speaker B: But that's okay. [01:16:07] Speaker C: That was the whole point of it, right? Was that sometimes we. You know, everybody likes certain things, so. So, yeah. Cara, what about you? Favorite? Least favorite. [01:16:15] Speaker E: It's a hard no. Okay. I think. [01:16:19] Speaker A: Pick some that you like. [01:16:20] Speaker E: I can't choose. I can't have to be favorite. Yeah. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Okay. [01:16:23] Speaker E: For sure. Yeah. Let's just put it in first place from the Ashes, followed by a close Women who Run with the Wolves. Really, really liked it. And then, like, Meredith, I just. I don't want to linger in the ones that I don't like. I kind of really appreciate, though, like, the perspective you brought Meredith in, that as you change, sometimes your likes and dislikes change. So I'm just putting it out there. Maybe some of the books that I didn't connect with, maybe there's the possibility down the line I might end up enjoying them. [01:17:01] Speaker C: You know, this is such a, like, Kara answer, a Lindsay answer, and Ashley answer. Like, these show our personality more than. [01:17:10] Speaker A: It's really great. [01:17:11] Speaker B: Totally. [01:17:12] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:17:12] Speaker D: Yeah. Because Mira's like, I don't want to talk about the things I hate. And I'm like, man, that's my favorite thing to talk about like, I just. [01:17:20] Speaker A: Want to double down. [01:17:21] Speaker D: Let's get into it. [01:17:23] Speaker B: And Mary's like, I have so many ones I like. And Lindsay's like, I have so many that I hated. [01:17:28] Speaker A: And Sarah's like, my favorite was Twilight. [01:17:32] Speaker B: Yes. [01:17:33] Speaker C: All right, Sarah, let's hear it. You get to finish up. [01:17:36] Speaker B: I have to say more than one. So my favorites were the change. Like Ashley. Oh, my God. Because Henrietta loved her love lessons in chemistry. I love that book. I also want to see Sing Red because then we got to make Kirsten Kirchmer and she was so awesome. That book changed me because I was one of those people that was really quiet and shy about my period. I was quiet about it. Like, remember I told you guys my story how I got my period and I got it late. Like, I was a late bloomer. Like 14 when I got my period. And still then I lied to people that I had my period for at least a year. Like I was. [01:18:11] Speaker D: I'm just. [01:18:12] Speaker B: And that book changed it that I was like, I'm like more open talking about period kids now. I think that helped my daughter. I think it was good for my parenting and then just good for me in general. So I want to say that too. The books I didn't like, we all know what happened to you. The only book I didn't finish, I also didn't really love Fun Home. Remember, I'm like graphic novel. And still I was iffy on solutions and other problems. Like, there was funny stories I liked in it, but then I didn't. I think it's graphic novels. I'm just never going to be a graphic novel person. I think it's the format. I don't like reading and then looking at bubbles and pictures. Like, I. Yes, the flow doesn't. Is not good for. I don't like that anyway. That's it for me. [01:18:53] Speaker C: Am I. Sarah, we all wanted to say a huge thank you to you for everything that you've done. We have put together some money and a little video for you to support you on your neck next project that you're doing, which is super exciting. So you just want to all be supportive because we are so proud of you of your new thing and you should probably talk about it on the podcast. But we all have a little video that I put together and then I also put at the end, like a screenshotted a whole bunch of videos and made like this really cheesy. Well, it's like 25 minutes long. Sorry, but there's like a lot of videos. [01:19:36] Speaker B: It's really rudimentary. [01:19:37] Speaker C: I am not an expert editor, and I put the song from Wicked on it, so maybe you can't share that because that's probably copyright. But for all of us, to you, Sarah, you know, all of us really want to thank you for every single moment and, you know, time and money and energy and all of the things that you put into this and bringing us together. So I will do that after. After the podcast so that you can watch it. And we're so proud of you and for everything that you're going to do soon and for everything you've done. [01:20:11] Speaker D: So just all the love. [01:20:15] Speaker B: Totally. [01:20:15] Speaker A: I feel like. [01:20:16] Speaker B: Oh, you're like. [01:20:18] Speaker A: I feel like I can't talk because you're making me cry. [01:20:21] Speaker D: I thought you were frozen for a second. So. [01:20:26] Speaker C: She'S frozen in emotion. [01:20:28] Speaker A: Yeah, she's in a cage of emotion. [01:20:32] Speaker D: Of course. Like, we're. You will see so much thank yous coming from all of us in the video. But really, I. I have so many people in my life that have said, I want to start a podcast. I want to do this and this, and no one actually has. So the fact that you put all of this together and you coordinated it for five years is crazy. Like, when I tell people, I'm like, no. Like, I have one of the ladies who lives in Senegal, one's in Ontario. Like, there, everyone's always blown away. So the fact that you were able to do this is absolutely incredible, and I feel so honored to be part of it, and I. I really can't wait to see what you're gonna do, Sarah. So thank you so, so much, truly. [01:21:12] Speaker E: Thank you. [01:21:13] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:21:14] Speaker E: You are capable of so much. And we can't wait to see what your next chapters look like. [01:21:20] Speaker A: If Sarah calls you, she said, do you want to work on something with me? The answer has got to be yes, because you're like, yeah, I want to see how this is going to go down. Whatever you need, Sarah. [01:21:29] Speaker C: Do you want to tell everybody about your next project? [01:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. I actually just. My book is now available on Amazon. Yeah. I did Awakening your Wild Woman workbook. Because of women who run with the wolves who started this whole thing, I decided to do a personal growth workbook to Unleash youh Wild Women and like, a kind of like a journal workbook that you can work on your own personal growth. And that's launching and then hopefully soon. I'm still working it out, but I'm going to do another podcast called the Wild Women with Sarah Diop. And then I'm Going to interview other people that inspire me, other women that are, I think, are living their authentic lives. [01:22:12] Speaker F: So. [01:22:12] Speaker B: And I agree. [01:22:14] Speaker E: So good. [01:22:15] Speaker D: That sounds. [01:22:16] Speaker B: Would you be able to put in. [01:22:17] Speaker E: The show notes a link to your new workbook? Yes, I will, because it looks pretty good. [01:22:24] Speaker C: And you have, like, social media and website and stuff as well, I believe. [01:22:29] Speaker B: Yes. I have a social media for the Wild Woman as well. I'm just, like, starting to post things because I want to obviously wrap up Book and Rusted. Somebody wants to find it. [01:22:39] Speaker A: What's it called? [01:22:40] Speaker B: My book or the website? [01:22:41] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:22:42] Speaker A: How do you find your social media? [01:22:43] Speaker B: It's either some version of, like, Sarah Wild Woman or Wild Woman Sarah. But I'll put the hashtags in the show notes because each one I had to make a slight deviation because it's actually kind of popular. Being a wild. [01:22:57] Speaker A: Be honest. Being a wild woman. [01:23:00] Speaker E: Good. [01:23:01] Speaker D: Next year, should we do like a. A urine review or something and, like, how things. We can meet and say how our year went or something? [01:23:10] Speaker A: Just to chitchat. [01:23:11] Speaker B: We totally can. [01:23:11] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:23:12] Speaker B: And Book Interrupted will always have, like, Book Interrupted podcast will always be available. Book interrupted YouTube station will always be available. So maybe we. I'll do that. [01:23:22] Speaker D: No, yeah, that would be awesome. [01:23:24] Speaker B: I'll organize that for sure. We'll be like, what are we up to? Yeah. [01:23:29] Speaker A: I was just thinking, in our earlier podcast, Lindsay read off the General Wolf Rules for Life from Clarissa Pecola Estes, and I thought maybe I would read them again, because I feel like that's kind of full circle from where we started. Okay. [01:23:47] Speaker B: Perfect perfection. [01:23:48] Speaker A: The General Wolf Rules for Life. Eat, rest, rove in between, render loyalty, love the children, cavil in the moonlight, Tune your ears, attend to the bones, make love, howl often now. [01:24:09] Speaker D: Oh, that's really beautiful. What a. [01:24:12] Speaker C: We should all owl. [01:24:17] Speaker D: Right? [01:24:18] Speaker A: When I was reading it this time, each of these rules made me think of some of the books that we read, you know, And I was like, yeah, we did it, right? We did. [01:24:29] Speaker D: Oh, love that. I love that so much. [01:24:32] Speaker B: All right, so it's personal journal time. Let's see what the members of Book Interrupted thought outside the group. [01:24:38] Speaker F: Hello, I'm Squiggy from the White Fragility Episodes to the ladies of Book Interrupted, Congratulations on such an amazing project. Thank you for letting me be a small part of it. It was so much fun and it even helped me get a date with a girl. But more than that, I felt that we delved into some topics that are very difficult to talk about, but we address it very well in the world of activism. There is so many experts we can turn to. There's books, there's workshops, there's people that are really well versed in these concepts. But then there's also just talking among ourselves, understanding each other, learning from each other, growing together. And to be able to do that, I felt was a really beautiful thing. And I think all of us left these conversations with more thoughts and things to work on in and more challenging of ourselves. I thought it was a really beautiful experience for both me and hopefully for you ladies as well. So again, congratulations on a good run. You know where to find me. Catch you later. Bye. [01:25:43] Speaker B: Thank you for joining us on this episode of Book Interrupted. If you'd like to see the video highlights from this episode, please go to our YouTube channel, book interrupted. You can also find our videos on www.bookinterrupted.com. did you know Book Interrupted has swag? Check out our swag shop on bookinterrupted.com. there's hats, t shirts, tanks and a whole bunch more. Go to www.bookinterrupted.com bookinterrupted. [01:26:17] Speaker A: Never forget, every child matters.