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[00:00:26] Speaker C: If this was happening to men, it'd be a public health crisis.
[00:00:30] Speaker D: 100%.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: I need to know if you're willing to talk about your drugs.
[00:00:33] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, publicly. It's good.
[00:00:36] Speaker D: Oh, my God. What kind of. Oh, yes, your drugs.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: Yes. Ooh, drugs.
[00:00:42] Speaker E: I wear adult diapers to bed. No, not always.
[00:00:47] Speaker F: Does anyone still do Kegel exercises?
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Now that you said that?
[00:00:51] Speaker C: I did one.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:52] Speaker G: Cysts are like, yeah. It feels like you have this, like, wave of, like, I'm going to pass out. It's so bad. Like, you can see stars and they're.
[00:00:59] Speaker D: Like, so elephant in the room. You don't have leukemia. I was like, I didn't know. That's why I was here.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: Fine. Your body will, like, adjust, which I know it will, but also, I'm, like, low key, concerned. How difficult will the adjustment be? Like, am I going to be all, like, raging until finally my body's like, oh, never mind.
[00:01:16] Speaker H: Yeah, it was a bit harder. I don't really care about birthdays because I really do believe it's how you feel and blah, blah, blah, and everyone's got age.
[00:01:22] Speaker C: What are you going to do?
[00:01:24] Speaker H: But this one was, like, 50. It sounds like on the other side of life.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: You ready, guys? Let's do this.
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[00:02:19] Speaker E: So, you guys, I watched both of those kits you can get in the mail. Like the Diva cup one. I want the Diva cup one.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the Diva cup, but I like the underwear on the other one. But I love the Diva Cup.
[00:02:31] Speaker E: Oh, I really do wanna try that underwear. I've been meaning to order it. It keeps popping up on my Instagram feed.
[00:02:35] Speaker F: But I just didn't like that it.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Came in the pattern. Yeah. I'm curious. Like, is it gonna absorb your whole period or is it just for leaks?
[00:02:44] Speaker E: I don't know. I wanna get it and try it. I'm gonna get it and try it. I'll report back.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Okay, good report.
[00:02:48] Speaker C: Some people can use it for their days. Maybe not your first day, they say, but depending on your period. It depends on you. But then the thing is, if you're out during the day and then you need to change your underwear, you have to carry it around.
[00:03:02] Speaker E: Yeah, just keep a baggie with you. Because I wreck underwear all the time, so I just keep a baggie with me for when I fucking wreck my underwear. Honestly, it's like my job is to, like, ruin sheets and underwear. I wear adult diapers to bed.
Not always. On the first night of my period. I do.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: I was like, is that a really.
[00:03:21] Speaker G: Serious conversation we should be. Be having?
[00:03:23] Speaker C: Okay, let's get.
[00:03:25] Speaker G: We didn't know.
[00:03:26] Speaker E: Okay. But that has nothing to do with this. Okay. Here's another weird thing that happens to me around before I get my period. My ability to hold my urine goes down. And the hormone specialist said it's because my estrogen levels are dropping.
[00:03:42] Speaker D: Ouch.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Your.
[00:03:44] Speaker E: I guess, Kegel ability goes. It becomes softer.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Other things that can weaken your ability to hold it is. Or things like caffeine. So you might decide to switch to, like, decaf during that time. No, no, thanks. I'm just saying.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: No, no, not caffeine. Lack of estrogen.
[00:04:01] Speaker C: But that's one of the reasons that postmenopausal women have more urinary incontinence.
[00:04:06] Speaker F: Really?
[00:04:07] Speaker E: Oh, there you go.
[00:04:08] Speaker F: Does anyone still do Kegel exercises?
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Now that you said that, I did one.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah, me too.
[00:04:14] Speaker C: Now that you said that, I'm like, oh, I loved.
[00:04:16] Speaker E: I'm doing them right now.
[00:04:17] Speaker C: I can do it. Still, I don't often.
Still got it.
[00:04:22] Speaker H: I know.
[00:04:23] Speaker C: I'd say I'm still recovering from the birth of my second child. Like, I can't run or jump unless I've just gone to the bathroom or I'll pee myself.
[00:04:33] Speaker A: Oh, me too. So I don't know why, but I found myself on a variety of trampolines. And before having a baby, that wasn't a problem. And after having a baby, that makes me pee my pants.
[00:04:45] Speaker F: It absolutely does. Or it makes it feel like your uterus is falling out of you.
[00:04:49] Speaker C: This is one of the reason. Reasons I want to get some of that period underwear. Just to, like, wear it. If I'M going to be doing something.
[00:04:56] Speaker E: Yeah. My thing is, I think it's going to end up being really not breathable underwear. Like a sweaty hell that you wouldn't want to wear if you could avoid it. But I will order it.
[00:05:06] Speaker F: I thought the idea was nice, Meredith.
[00:05:09] Speaker E: Let's both order it. But two different brands.
[00:05:11] Speaker H: Yeah.
[00:05:12] Speaker E: So we can do a good synopsis. Because I've been for like two years been thinking about ordering.
[00:05:17] Speaker C: I've been thinking about it for a long time too. Like where the lady was going through perimenopause and then she had this like just crazy bleed out. And I was like, before I hit perimenopause, I need to get some of that underwear and just wear it every day in case there's like all of.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: A sudden our mom, she had like.
[00:05:34] Speaker E: A 50 day bleed.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: What?
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Is that how it ends? A big hurrah for some.
[00:05:39] Speaker E: No, I don't think she got mean.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Mean. We shouldn't find out about this when we're 40, right? That should be part of the.
[00:05:45] Speaker C: Oh, I've ordered. There's a book the lady who wrote the Vagina Bible is called the Menopause Manifesto. Really hard to find, really. A good reliable information about menopause. So I bought one for myself because I need to know ahead of time. I want to know beforehand. I don't want to figure it out as I go along. And then I bought one for Sarah too.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Because I had one day, my period is super late. And then I had the weird blowout where I was like, thank goodness I was home. All of a sudden it felt like, I don't know, like a pop. And then all of a sudden I was like, what?
[00:06:17] Speaker E: It's happy.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: I had to run to the bathroom as it's dripping, like just pouring down my legs.
[00:06:23] Speaker E: Have you had an ulcer sound of late or do you save all that for when you're in Canada?
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't had it since.
[00:06:30] Speaker F: Yeah, I was just gonna say it sound like something maybe.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: Oh, and now I'm getting my period every 23 days. So I was super late. And now it's like every 23 days.
[00:06:39] Speaker G: Yeah, but was it really painful when you had that popping thing? Was it like an extreme like, I'm gonna die pain or. No, it was just the blood because I've had cysts.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: No, like there was cramping. Like I got. I felt pain, but I wouldn't say like, I'm going to die pain.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: I think I've had a situation like that before. Yeah.
[00:06:56] Speaker G: Yeah. I've had cysts. Cysts are like. Yeah. It feels like you have this, like, wave of, like, I'm gonna pass out. It's so bad. Like, you can see stars.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Oh, actually, I did feel, like, a little bit, like. Yeah, sweaty. Like, I'm gonna pass out. I wouldn't say I was in pain, but I felt.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: No.
[00:07:11] Speaker G: So it could be like, yeah, like.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Like I've lost too much blood. Like, I'm like I'm dizzy and I'm like, oh, my God, what is happening before?
[00:07:18] Speaker A: Like, when I've had what I would describe, like, that I had a really, like, concentrated pain, like, as if I felt the location of the cyst. Right. And the same thing that you said. Shuai. It's like, really hot. Really, like, nauseous for a minute. And then I. And you can tell it starts as a normal cramp, but it, like, kind of like.
Like fine tunes right onto a point. And then it's like, run.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Like, if you're not in.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: If you're in public, run.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: I had run to the bathroom. I can't even imagine if I was out in public.
[00:07:51] Speaker C: Like, that's why these underwear would be nice.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Because I was at Peggy's when that happened to me. I was at the convenience store and I had to find a bathroom which.
[00:08:01] Speaker C: Was not very inconvenient.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: Store, totally. And yeah, the only inconvenient thing about the convenience store. And I ran to wherever I ran. Oh, it was the groceries. Anyways, I left my fucking bloody underpants in the garbage because I had to use a bed. And I had a really short dress on and it was windy.
[00:08:19] Speaker G: Oh, no.
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[00:08:39] Speaker F: This interruption is brought to you by Elizabeth Gilbert. Radically disrupting everything in my mind, body and soul, my life, my belief systems. I am shaken to the core. I would highly advise that anyone who doesn't want a radical disruption that causes you to reevaluate everything, to not follow Elizabeth Gilbert on social media. In particular, don't follow Lady Boss method on Instagram. It's going to mess you up. If you are a woman or an individual who identifies as a woman. If you have a partner or are married and live with this partner or spouse, and it's for sure going to disrupt everything in your beingness. If you are a woman who has kids, if you find yourself in the role of female caregiver and you're not prepared to reevaluate everything. Don't follow Lady Boss method or Elizabeth Gilbert she dropped in a few different posts, some really interesting research. The first bit was about just how she has become more and more as she has moved towards her authentic self, just really embodied, embodying the idea of selfishness. I don't even like to use that word. You can tell that I still have some inner work in me to work on here. But no, it brings up a whole lot of. I mean it's not just a word, there's meanings attached to it from my own self, from my own experiences, but also from the culture in which I live. Feels like the word selfish in the context of the feminine is on a status hierarchy and that it's at the bottom there. That feels uncomfortable. Also just, you know, gender stereotypes and having been born and raised in the Western culture and playing around with this idea of selfishness, I don't like it. I want to crawl out of my own skin here. Her sharing what being selfish has done for her and this would be a very long interruption if I got into all of that, but I invite you to consider what being selfish might look like for you. And then in another post here she is sharing, gosh, some really hard data that has come about from the Western culture and research and surveys done here. I live in Canada and just how well in general, unmarried, unpartnered and women and women who don't have children are doing, how much better their life and livelihood is, their health and well being. The decreased rates of suicide. It was startling to take in, I guess just because I'm in a season of my life where I've been wondering a whole lot probably since August and we find ourselves now in February. You know, I've been kind of calling upon God and the universe to show me how to serve. Isn't that such a great thing? Look at me serving and I'm going to do a little self care on the side, make sure I fill up my cup before I go and fill up others. And then I come across Elizabeth Gilbert who's kind of sharing the realities of what it means to serve. And it doesn't mean that it's a bad thing. It's so easy to get locked into those binaries of good and bad. But thank you universe for as I contemplate how I want to contribute to my family, to my community, to society, to my tribe, to have served me with some really good food for thought here on what does it mean to be of service to others, what Are the consequences do you mean what you say? And when your actions start matching your words, Kara, what is that going to look like? So, yeah, radical disruptions and interruptions over here. I'm supposed to be getting a lot of stuff done today. And yet, in the back of my mind and within in my soul, this is all I am thinking about and grappling with. It all started a few months ago when I started thinking about what would it look like if I said no more? And what am I saying yes to? So good luck to you out there.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: Book interrupted.
[00:13:30] Speaker E: How's it going, kj? You're here long.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Ah, finally.
[00:13:35] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: I have to wear this hat, man, so bad. Like, I cut my hair myself on the top to make it work when it was short. But now trying to grow it out, it does not work. Like, I just have, like, this section of hair that won't do anything. Like, won't grow. It grows. But because I cut it all fucked up in the first place, the stage that it's at right now, like, go straight down on my face. It's too long to be bangs I don't want to cut.
[00:13:57] Speaker E: It's like directionally goes this way.
[00:13:59] Speaker C: It's like you need to wear scarves, become a scarf.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:03] Speaker E: Have you ever had bangs, kj?
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, this is one of the reasons why I have this problem because I cut them. Like, I made, like, a fringe. Like an. I'm trying to grow it out. There's all this hair right here that just doesn't know what to do with itself. And then I'm trying to make it go up again. Like, up and away.
[00:14:21] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: But it wants to come down. So I'm really Biebery. You know what I mean? With, like that.
[00:14:25] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My hair totally. And Max's hair, it totally grows like this.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:30] Speaker E: Like, forward this way.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: It's like.
[00:14:33] Speaker E: Well, that's not very useful.
[00:14:34] Speaker C: No.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Like, for one specific haircut. Like, okay, I guess I'll cut some really short beaver.
[00:14:40] Speaker E: Yeah, the Justin Bieber.
[00:14:42] Speaker C: I thought you said beaver. Kim, the first time. Somebody said the first time was beaver. Beaver.
Classic beaver.
[00:14:50] Speaker E: Beaver haircut.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: Beaver has changed meanings from the time.
[00:14:54] Speaker E: Yeah, it's different now.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:57] Speaker E: Oh, like beaver like vagina.
Oh, yeah. I didn't put that together at all.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: Classic beaver.
[00:15:05] Speaker E: Hey, classic fever hair.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: That's not a good look on the head.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: That's not great.
[00:15:12] Speaker E: It's not great.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: It's not great.
[00:15:14] Speaker C: No.
[00:15:15] Speaker E: Yeah, you don't want your head hair.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: To look like pubes.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: So, like, hi, guys.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: So Are you growing your hair long?
[00:15:22] Speaker B: No, so. Well, I am growing my hair long, yes. But it was kind of like, because I hadn't cut it and I there had uncle to a hairdresser here. I hadn't cut it since I was in Canada last. Other than my bangs. I do my own bangs. I saw a hack on how to cut your own hair by, like putting it a half pony and putting that forward and then trimming here to have it layered and then doing the same at the back, but then the back is a little bit more straight. And I did it today and got my hair cut.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: It does. It looks great.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: I know. I was like, that's the best hair.
[00:15:54] Speaker G: Hack I've ever had.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Well, be careful though, because sometimes those hair hacks result in a crazy new thing.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: I did early enough this morning after all the kids had left, just in case it totally destroyed it. I had to, like, fix my hair. But it didn't. It was like, amazing right away. And I was like, oh, my God, I should have done this before.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Oh, Ashley's coming. She said she'll be a couple minutes.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: No, that's okay. Yeah, she told me she's coming. And guess what? Virginia is going to come for the never have I ever.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Great.
[00:16:22] Speaker C: And I'm wearing a blazer.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: I know. You're so fancy.
[00:16:25] Speaker C: And I have this because I got the worst haircut of my life.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I'm the same. I don't have a bad haircut. I just maybe need a haircut or something. I had a hat on and then I was like, anyway, not believe this haircut.
[00:16:36] Speaker C: It's like, I have two haircuts.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: I want to see it this.
[00:16:40] Speaker C: So I asked her to layer my hair because I've been growing it out. I haven't cut it since, like last year. Right. I like, I want to keep some length, but, like, maybe put some layers in so it looks good. Maybe like choppy layers, you know, kind of messy. Not like, you know, formed. So she gave me two layers. One that's here and one that's here.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: So you have a mushroom. You have the jellyfish.
[00:17:00] Speaker C: It's a mushroom on top of like a hockey hair.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Show us.
[00:17:06] Speaker C: So bad. Okay, please.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: I can't believe you got an unintentional jellyfish.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: So you can see the all the way around. It is this long and then it is also this long straight across at the back.
[00:17:22] Speaker G: I think it looks cute.
[00:17:23] Speaker C: It isn't cute. It's this all the way along the top and then it's flat. I look Like Betty from the Flintstones when I just let it go.
[00:17:32] Speaker G: Oh, I think it looks cute.
[00:17:34] Speaker C: Like, seriously, there's like, this is a bad haircut. Well, and also, I wanted something look good for going back to work, and.
[00:17:40] Speaker D: It looks so bad.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: So I'm like, I guess it's a ponytail every day.
[00:17:44] Speaker G: I think that looks fine.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: It might be a thing that grows out in two weeks into maybe. Awesome.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: Sorry to get in three.
Okay, go. You must go. We have to do a thing.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: Not Sarah. Sarah, you stay.
[00:18:00] Speaker C: Meredith, you gotta go.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Tell me about your estradiol. I want to hear, how's it going?
[00:18:06] Speaker C: It's going good.
[00:18:07] Speaker G: I think your hair looks cute. I don't know what you're talking about. I think it looks cute or because.
[00:18:12] Speaker C: I've had it up. It's just not. You know what she said to me? She's like, oh, so you dye your hair a lot, huh?
[00:18:18] Speaker A: And I was like, never.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: I haven't dyed my hair in 17 years.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like it's like standard talk. I'm glad that you had that experience because I wonder how much hairdressers are just saying the, you know, the majority of the things that would be applicable and what they actually know.
[00:18:37] Speaker C: And I booked, like, a senior stylist. Dan's like, maybe she's the stylist that only does seniors.
It doesn't matter. Nobody listens to them if they complain anyway.
That's what it's like to be a senior.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Really?
[00:18:51] Speaker C: Why is it.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: All right.
[00:18:52] Speaker G: Sorry, Mayor, tell Tim about your.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: I need to know if you're willing to talk about your drugs.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Publicly. It's good.
[00:18:58] Speaker D: Oh, my God. What kind of. Oh, yes, your drugs.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: Ooh, drugs.
[00:19:05] Speaker D: Yeah, that's the off the shelf topic.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: Drugs. No, it's good. I did start feeling better, kind of right away, and I still think there's definitely a difference between the follicular flip phase and the luteal phase. So I'm in the follicular phase. I feel like normal. I'm normal. I'm not super sweaty all the time. I'm sleeping. Well, the nightmares are gone, the depression is gone. I'm sleeping like, I'm sleeping every night. I'm not waking up, being like, too hot, too cold, too hot, too cold. And then the house can be a normal temperature. So lucky for Dan. And my hands aren't. Weren't tingling anymore and the ear ringing, gone. I started taking it. The ear ringing stopped the tingling in the hands. But then when I'm in the luteal Phase. When everything drops, it's still a little bit. I still get a little bit of that. So I'll know that I'm entering my luteal phase. Because I wake up, my hands are numb.
There it is.
[00:20:01] Speaker D: Oh, my God. That sounds awful.
[00:20:04] Speaker C: That's called perimenopause, Ashley. The list of symptoms is bad. It's long.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: I heard they don't make any sense. It's like anything.
[00:20:13] Speaker C: If this was happening to men, it'd be a public health crisis 100%. The weird nightmares are gone, which is nice. The weird. There's a predator, and I'm gonna be attacked. Those are gone.
[00:20:25] Speaker D: So it's good.
[00:20:27] Speaker C: And I haven't been getting super depressed right before my period, which is like the depression where you can't move. That's gone too. Anyway, so I think it needs a little bit of tweaking maybe, but.
[00:20:36] Speaker G: Yeah, but you're lucky because you never had any PMS symptoms ever. A lot of the things you can try, I deal with all the time.
[00:20:44] Speaker C: But I can't have that. I'm like, why am I all of a sudden moody? Like, this is terrible.
[00:20:48] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:20:49] Speaker C: Not handling my, you know, children, but.
[00:20:53] Speaker G: That'S most of women. Oh, so you're lucky you didn't have to deal with that.
[00:20:57] Speaker C: It's still bad, though, that women don't get taken seriously.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: Like, whatever.
[00:21:01] Speaker C: Like, are you upset because of this? And you're like, yes, I am upset because my hormones, that's what they do. They make me feel things. So, yeah, either, like, help or get out of the way.
Totally.
[00:21:13] Speaker D: Oh, and they never help.
[00:21:15] Speaker G: And they never help anyway.
[00:21:17] Speaker C: So, yeah, they're going good. I think I started with, like, a much lower dose because my doctor put me on, like, the highest one to start. I was like, I don't know. I tend to be sensitive to things. Right. So I talked to my pharmacist, and he called the doctor, and I started a lower one. I did start feeling better right away, but then I was like, oh, this isn't enough again. When I got to the luteal phase, everything was back. So now I'm. I'm at the dose of my doctor originally put me on, but, like, I don't trust him. So fair. They'll put this. This on. Oh, my God.
[00:21:44] Speaker D: I don't trust doctors either, so I'm glad we're kind of all on the same page.
[00:21:50] Speaker G: What happened to Sarah? Does anybody know?
[00:21:52] Speaker A: I think her Internet might have turned off.
She hasn't even sent a message. Yeah, to say something, you know, What? I mean, so.
[00:22:01] Speaker G: Oh, there, I just saw her.
[00:22:03] Speaker C: She.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Oh, great.
[00:22:04] Speaker D: I have, I have two Sarahs on this.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: That's because one of them is Meredith.
[00:22:09] Speaker C: That's the thing when, if I sign in first, I can't change it until somebody else signs in, which is. I can't figure out how.
[00:22:15] Speaker D: That's so strange.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: I like your hair today, Ashley.
[00:22:19] Speaker D: Oh my God, thank you.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to deal with the curls.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: I love the curls. You shouldn't deal with them. You should just enhance them in whatever way they end up.
[00:22:30] Speaker D: Yeah, thank you. Yesterday they were. It was pretty big, but yes, it feels like a cushion.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: When you sleep, you're like, oh, two pillows.
[00:22:38] Speaker D: Yeah. No, seriously, I'm like, are you like.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: I don't even need a pillow. You're on the airplane. Haha, suckers.
[00:22:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I've just been blessed with a pillow to go that works because I love napping.
[00:22:52] Speaker G: So Sarah, you're back.
[00:22:55] Speaker B: If I cut out, then just going without me. I asked Mamadou to give me something on my phone so I can hotspot it, but I guess I used it all trying to upload something for one of the episodes that are coming out Anyway, so. So when the integral went out, I just left.
[00:23:12] Speaker C: Kim, did you start guys drugs?
[00:23:15] Speaker A: I got some drugs and I'm gonna start them on the first of the month. That's my plan. Because that's what they prescribe it, right? Like just do it from the your press gastrone. Anyways, from the 1st to the 12th is what mine is. They're like, do it for these 12 days and then don't do it. But like they're going calendar month, not cyclical.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: Really. That's weird.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: My pharmacist also was like, it doesn't really matter, it's just easier this way. And I was like, it's not gonna fuck up my body.
[00:23:42] Speaker C: They're basically insulting women, being like, you guys can't keep track of it. And you're like, do you realize I keep track of this for like my whole life? I've kept track of it. So it's probably fine, right?
[00:23:50] Speaker A: I'm. I'm not a tracker. I'm like, my period's coming. I bet it's just the odds increase as the time passes. I'm like, I'm certain it'll be here soon.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Soon I track it, but mine's all over the place. There's no point.
[00:24:05] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing is that like, I think mine might be getting slightly closer together.
[00:24:10] Speaker C: But again, mine's been close together for ages.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: Years.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: Super.
[00:24:15] Speaker D: Have you experienced polycystic ovarian syndrome? Not me, but I've.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: You have it? Yeah.
[00:24:23] Speaker D: So I have it, and I didn't find out I had it. And so I was really big on, like, tracking my periods, too. And then I went this really long period. It was like six months or something. I didn't have my period. I was like, oh, that's really strange. But I was taking pregnancy tests. I was like, oh, my God, am I pregnant? I wasn't. And then I got my period for two months straight. And. And, like, I'm not talking, just Stephen, like, spotting here and there. Like, I had to change. I was wearing a tampon and a pad, and I was changing every hour.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: I hate heavy periods.
[00:24:57] Speaker D: It was so bad. So it was for two months, and instead of fucking diagnosing me with pcos, they thought I had leukemia. And I had to go. I had to go see an oncologist. I was getting blood work done every day. So it's just, like, shows that doctors are so fudgeing dumb. Like, let's look at the most likely.
[00:25:18] Speaker C: Thing first and investigate that.
[00:25:21] Speaker D: Yes. And I went to the oncologist. I didn't even know that this is what they were, like, testing for. They didn't even tell me. So I go to my oncologist appointment, and they're like, so elephant in the room. You don't have leukemia. I was like, I didn't know. That's why I was here.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: You're like, I didn't know there was an elephant.
[00:25:40] Speaker D: Oh, seriously?
[00:25:41] Speaker C: I was like, it must be spacious. Yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker D: So anyways, doctors, I don't trust them.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: I don't trust them either.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: I don't trust.
[00:25:49] Speaker D: They just don't know what the they're doing. Like, when it comes to women's bodies, they really don't. There's just not enough research done.
[00:25:57] Speaker G: Some doctors are better than.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: The problem is, some doctors are bad. And then it makes good doctors harder to trust.
[00:26:04] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:26:05] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:26:05] Speaker D: Well, it's like police, right? Like, not every police officer is bad, but there's so many bad ones that it's like, how do you trust the good ones?
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, because you can't tell the difference.
[00:26:16] Speaker C: Yeah. The higher the level of, like, absolute confidence someone has, the less I trust them. If someone's like, listen, we know some stuff we don't know. This is what we know, and this is what we don't know. It's kind of. We don't. We're not sure and you're like, oh, I trust you. If they're like, no, this is how you do it. And that's the only way. You don't know what you're talking about. That's what I feel. If somebody's super confident, I'm just like, no way.
[00:26:38] Speaker D: Yeah. No, I feel I will listen to.
[00:26:40] Speaker G: You say, well, it's easier, too. In, like, Toronto, where there's a lot. I think a lot of those, like, doctors that do know things just congregate in the, like, places where they get paid more. Right. So unfortunately, smaller places like where mayor lives and I don't know about you guys, but that you don't get that opportunity to talk to people that know what they're talking about.
[00:27:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I think you're like, B.C. in general.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Vancouver could be a B.C. thing.
[00:27:05] Speaker C: It's busy.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: It's really west coast Canada.
It's like, we have surfer doctors. It's a different vibe. It's a total different vibe.
[00:27:13] Speaker C: You'll be like, book somebody.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: Like, oh, it was really nice weather.
[00:27:17] Speaker C: It was nice weather. So I went snowboarding, whatever. Kayaking. Name a sport. Be like, I'm really close for today.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: Maybe doctors.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: But like every. Anything you just like.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: You might just be like, all employees.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: All employees of any job ever.
[00:27:32] Speaker D: I'm like that.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: That's why if you show up, they're like, you're the manager.
[00:27:36] Speaker C: That's why.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: It's because you showed up.
[00:27:38] Speaker C: It's true.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: It is true.
[00:27:40] Speaker C: It's true. It's like when we lived on the coast, you couldn't get anybody to drywall anything. Be like, oh, man, these people just don't show up. You can't get anything finish. When Matt was first out there, he'd show up, they'd be like, you're the best employee we've ever had.
[00:27:51] Speaker E: Totally.
[00:27:52] Speaker D: Work hours.
[00:27:53] Speaker C: Or like, cut you up in the morning and work till the afternoon. He's like, you're the only one who shows up every day.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:28:02] Speaker G: For sure. Toronto, where everybody's like, you have to work 14 hours a day and on your own time.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: You've got to be answering emails. And so eight days a week.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: There's a toss up, though. There's a toss up. There's some dodgy things. All houses are dodgy.
Okay, I shouldn't say all. There are some people with good work ethic and most people do great.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: And they came from Ontario and they came from. They're now the managers here.
[00:28:33] Speaker D: Yeah, buddy, that's right.
[00:28:36] Speaker C: I met this mom that had moved to here from Ontario. And she was talking about her job. She's like, it just seems like, I don't know, I'm like, you feel like you should be doing more and you're wondering if you're doing your job because, like, like you're getting it done quickly. I'm like, yeah, no, you're just from Ontario.
It's just a different speed, so it's okay. They think. They actually think you're doing great. When they say that, they're like, wow, look how much work this lady can do because she came from Toronto, where.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: It'S like super competitive.
[00:29:03] Speaker C: Like, you don't do the work, we'll just give someone else. There's a lineup at the door. Yeah, hilarious.
[00:29:09] Speaker G: Well, I kind of wish I had your right now than you then mine.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: You can come to anywhere in B.C. if you wanted.
[00:29:17] Speaker C: Totally.
[00:29:18] Speaker G: Maybe one day.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: I thought you were gonna say maybe Wednesday. And I was like, maybe.
[00:29:21] Speaker D: Wow, good.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: That would be decisive.
[00:29:24] Speaker C: Okay, that's Ontario right there.
[00:29:28] Speaker A: Maybe Wednesday.
[00:29:29] Speaker C: I can do it.
[00:29:30] Speaker G: I can be there, spend a day, come back.
[00:29:36] Speaker D: You'd spend half your day on the plane to and from.
[00:29:39] Speaker C: Yeah, switching planes.
[00:29:41] Speaker A: The commute.
[00:29:41] Speaker G: Yeah, right, the commute.
[00:29:46] Speaker C: Across the country. Oh, my God. Okay.
[00:29:49] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:29:49] Speaker C: No, it is interesting, Kim, because, like, I gotta figure out my doctor doesn't know how to do the cyclical thing. But I thought mine was said start it in the last part. But that doesn't make sense for. Anyway, I'm gonna think, yeah, because I.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: Like, he was like, yeah, do this on the first 12 days of the month. And I was like, calendar month? Or like menstrual month? Because you know how the menstrual month, I think, starts on the first day of your period. It does. Yeah. So I was like, what measurement are we talking about here? Yeah, he just said calendar. I went to my pharmacist expecting potentially some conflicting info because I was like, is that best practice? You know what I mean? Like, should I start it up? And she was like, no, really, it's fine. Your body will, like, adjust, Which I know it will, but also I'm like, low key concerned how difficult will the adjustment be? Like, am I going to be all, like, raging until finally my body's like, whoa, never mind, never mind. I'm all good.
I'll get fired first. Like, oh, God.
[00:30:45] Speaker C: I mean, the progesterone part is just to, like, protect you from uterine cancer.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:51] Speaker C: Or endometrial cancer.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So does it increase your risk of a blood clot?
[00:30:56] Speaker C: I'm do Transdermal, like, me too.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: That's what I know.
[00:31:00] Speaker C: It doesn't.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: Okay, that's what I thought. So my pharmacist doesn't even know because she gave me that warning. And I was like, I'm pretty sure there was no risks with this, except for a reaction to the.
[00:31:10] Speaker C: This is part of the problem with the. I think sometimes they can group all. Like, they'll group progestins and progesterone all together, for example. Like, we had a side effect on this one product for. We're going to put on the warnings on all of them. But transdermal, like, so the gels and the patches don't increase your chance of blood clots. And that has to do with, like, how it's brought into your body. So if you take it by mouth, it goes through your liver first before it gets to your blood, which is why it increases your chance of blood clots, that whole process. But if it's just going directly into your blood, then it does not.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Which it is with the trans.
[00:31:39] Speaker D: No meat.
[00:31:40] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:31:40] Speaker A: Fantastic. Yes. Okay.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: So, so hot here today. Like, look how red I am.
[00:31:47] Speaker G: Literally, it's warm here. Well, not hot hot, but warm. Like, humid.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: Do you see it?
[00:31:52] Speaker B: And I have that filter on right now.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: This is the red skin. Filter. Yeah, filter.
[00:31:58] Speaker F: I know all about that.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: Literally sweaty from head to toes.
[00:32:02] Speaker C: I think they said head to toes. I always say from head to toe, but head to toes is way more accurate, isn't it? I gotta start saying that everyone just.
[00:32:10] Speaker F: Says head to toe. But you're right. We need to modify.
[00:32:13] Speaker C: What about the rest of the toes?
[00:32:15] Speaker F: Right.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Well, I think it's just the biggest, the favored toe. Which is the farthest? Well, it depends on which toe is your longest, because that's the toe. I think they're talking about number two for you. Let me see.
Almost number two. Two and big T. Or in a tie.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: Me too.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: Hey, Big T, how you doing?
Now?
[00:32:34] Speaker C: Mine's like, longer. By, like, this much.
I have very long toes.
[00:32:39] Speaker F: Same to the point that I am, like, flabbergasted when I meet people that don't have an excessively, like, longer second toe. I was like, so this is an option.
[00:32:49] Speaker C: But how do you pick up laundry off the ground? Like, how do you live? That is my move. That's.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: How do you pass remote control without getting off the couch?
[00:33:02] Speaker F: How do you parent. God.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: I just was saying under my breath.
[00:33:07] Speaker C: Oh, my God, I'm so hot.
[00:33:10] Speaker H: What's the temperature like there? Is it wild?
[00:33:12] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:33:13] Speaker C: Boiling hot.
[00:33:16] Speaker F: You know that temperature surface of the.
[00:33:19] Speaker B: Sun, Your whole body with a sheen of sweat. That hot.
[00:33:24] Speaker A: Oh, jeez.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Puddles under your breasts and no bras.
[00:33:28] Speaker H: Oh, the Mountain Dew.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: We call it the Mountain Dew.
[00:33:32] Speaker F: I love it.
[00:33:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: That's.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: How hot is there a lot of. Thankfully, my face is in sweat.
[00:33:40] Speaker F: Is there because of my surgery.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: In dry heat right now there's humidity because it's the rainy season. So it's super humid and super hot. Normally it's just hot and it's fine. But the super hot and humid is.
[00:33:54] Speaker H: Yeah, that's a killer, right?
[00:33:56] Speaker B: Just suffocating.
[00:33:57] Speaker C: Okay. How are you doing there, Kara? Are you good?
[00:34:00] Speaker F: I don't know what it is about technical hiccups. I think we were talking about this last time. That just starts my stress response instantaneously.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Kara is now as hot as Sarah. But in air conditioning.
Right. It's actually nice fall. Fall day here.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Like it's sunny, but it's like crisp. Yeah. Like it would be a good day to go on a hike. You know what I mean? Yeah.
[00:34:24] Speaker G: Yeah, that's nice.
[00:34:26] Speaker C: High of 10, low minus 1, kind of.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Is that actually your weather?
[00:34:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's nice.
[00:34:34] Speaker G: Deodorant on smelly. Well, the tmi. But I am.
[00:34:41] Speaker C: Oh, that's the thing about the hormones is that my sweat did used to smell for the longest time and now it's starting smell again. So wear this. And also I like that my breasts, and now they've come back. Now I have. I have bigger boobs than I did before. The hormones. Like, not bigger than you before. Before, but like my breasts were almost nothing. They were just gone. Now look at how big they are. I know. It's not that big. They're pretty big compared.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: So I was like, great.
[00:35:11] Speaker C: I finally bought. I was like, I want to buy one of those Lululemon running bras, which is expensive and not necessary. Dan's like, you're just going to wear it every day for working out anyway. Just buy it. So I bought it and I had nothing. And now I have breasts. I'm like, well, now I do. I should have got.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: So, Meredith.
[00:35:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Will you share with me what your dose of estrogel dial is?
[00:35:31] Speaker C: I'm on the Estradent 100.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: 100. Do you know if it goes up by 25?
[00:35:36] Speaker C: There's 25. 37 and a half, 50, 75 and 100.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know there was 37 and a half. Yeah, I started at 2 and I started on the 25. And then I was like, let's see what it's like to have some more. Just like, yeah.
And now I'm on the 50.
[00:35:55] Speaker C: I'm seeing a doctor, like, a private doctor. Now you pay. Whatever. She's like, you have symptoms of low estrogen. It seems like it's not working. She's like, the patch might not be for you. She's like, you might have to do a different type because it started. It worked at first, and now it's not so much interesting. Like, I shouldn't have the can't wear underwear or sit down, vaginal pain with the amount of estrogen I'm on. So now I'm on, like, a vaginal estrogen and the patch, and it's still not enough.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: You have can't wear underwear, sit down, vaginal pain.
[00:36:23] Speaker C: Yeah. So if I take the vaginal estrogen every day, which you're not really supposed to have to take every day, it's fine. But when I went to the maintenance dose, which was twice a week, I, like, can hardly walk. Walking is painful. Wearing underwear is painful. Sitting is painful. It's just like, what do I do?
[00:36:41] Speaker A: Where's your pain?
[00:36:42] Speaker C: It's on the outside. And inside it's like, yeah, don't move. And it's probably fine.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: What does it feel like, itchy?
[00:36:49] Speaker B: Or is it like it's not like.
[00:36:52] Speaker C: A yeast infection where it's kind of like it doesn't itch?
[00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:56] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: But is it like that skin, like, surface when. I mean, when I say skin like that surface? Kind of. Yeah. I like. I think I know what you mean.
[00:37:04] Speaker C: I think it's, like, dry, to the point.
[00:37:07] Speaker G: Pain?
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah, Like a really bad sunburn. Like, anytime you move, you're like, oh, like that feeling?
[00:37:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Very tender.
[00:37:15] Speaker A: I didn't even know that was an option.
[00:37:16] Speaker C: Right. And I was just like, so that's why I'm paying to somebody. I'm like, I need, like, vaginal estrogen without explaining to my doctor why that's a thing. She did a bunch of tests. I have to go see her for, like, we did a full, like, urine test four different times of day. So you see where, like, all the hormone levels are, like cortisol and all the. The metabolites. And then she did blood tests, too.
[00:37:38] Speaker H: So.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: Anyway, we'll see what happens.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: I just want to say I really love your hair today.
[00:37:43] Speaker G: It's so.
[00:37:44] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: I would like to second that.
[00:37:48] Speaker D: Oh, my gosh. Thank you, guys. I just wet it, so it's amazing, but thank you. Much appreciated. It's one of the days where I feel like it's working with me, and usually it's against me, so.
[00:38:01] Speaker C: Yeah, that's nice.
[00:38:02] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:38:03] Speaker C: Take those wins.
[00:38:05] Speaker D: Word.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Hello. Hello.
[00:38:09] Speaker F: Oh, my gosh. So you do not look 50.
[00:38:13] Speaker H: Thank you.
[00:38:14] Speaker E: Happy birthday. You're making us excited about turning 50.
[00:38:19] Speaker F: Because if we're just gonna look. Look more beautiful.
[00:38:21] Speaker H: Oh, my God.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:38:22] Speaker F: Like, honestly.
[00:38:25] Speaker H: Well, it's nice of you to say, but, you know, my back pain tells me otherwise. Right, right.
[00:38:30] Speaker G: I know it wasn't the bed the wrong way.
[00:38:33] Speaker F: I'm like, right. I'm 50.
[00:38:35] Speaker H: Yeah.
[00:38:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:36] Speaker H: It was a bit harder. I don't really care about birthdays because I really do believe it's how you feel and blah, blah, blah, and everyone's got age.
[00:38:42] Speaker C: What are you gonna do?
[00:38:43] Speaker H: But this one was like, 50. It sounds like a. On the other side of life, you know, like, it's getting. What are you gonna do? So a bunch of friends down to the Dominican. So that was kind of a nice way to.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Oh, see that?
[00:39:00] Speaker H: Yeah, that was fun.
[00:39:02] Speaker F: That is awesome.
[00:39:03] Speaker H: Yeah, it was good. We went to catamaran and drank pina coladas, and it was nice, right?
[00:39:09] Speaker C: That's nice.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: I honestly, I had no idea. Honestly, you don't look right. I was thinking about 50.
[00:39:15] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: Like, she does.
[00:39:16] Speaker C: It looks amazing.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: Like, I look definitely look older than you. Do you know that my daughter's friend asked her if I'm her grandmother?
[00:39:26] Speaker F: Amazing. Last week, and that didn't bug.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: Is that your grandma at all?
She's like, you look so old. Why do you have to give kids so late?
[00:39:38] Speaker H: And I was like, I hope that kid didn't get dessert.
[00:39:42] Speaker F: I'm sorry that I worked on some of my own healing so that I'd be a better parent first.
So sorry, little one.
[00:39:50] Speaker H: I know it's crazy.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: And then my husband is 13 years older than me, so she was saying.
[00:39:55] Speaker C: To him, oh, God, come to my.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: School unless you shave, because he has.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: Some gray in his beard.
[00:40:00] Speaker H: Oh, my God.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: Unless you shave.
[00:40:06] Speaker H: That's so funny. That's so funny.
[00:40:09] Speaker C: Isn't it?
[00:40:10] Speaker H: Yeah. One of Reese's friends, when I picked him up from camp one time, said the same thing. Oh, is this your grandma? I'm like, you little.
[00:40:16] Speaker C: Really?
[00:40:17] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:40:17] Speaker H: No, I know, right?
[00:40:19] Speaker C: I hope we get broccoli tonight.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Broccoli and Brussels spread.
[00:40:24] Speaker H: I know, right?
[00:40:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:26] Speaker H: My mom's West Indians. She's like, doesn't age, so I think I thankfully, you know, because when I was 20 people thought I was like, oh, you're 8 years old to get older.
[00:40:38] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:40:39] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:40:40] Speaker H: But I did read lessons in chemistry on the beach. That was really nice.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:40:44] Speaker H: Nice way to read it. Yeah. Like, you're never going to get that finished by this. I'm like, now I have a mission.
[00:40:51] Speaker F: I accept this challenge.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: Also, like, it's a good. Are we gonna start? Because.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: Oh, no. But we're not doing lessons in chemistry.
[00:40:59] Speaker C: No.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: I was just gonna say, like, it's easy to read that book.
[00:41:01] Speaker F: Book.
[00:41:02] Speaker A: You want to go back to it?
[00:41:03] Speaker C: True.
[00:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:04] Speaker H: It's interesting, right?
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Look forward to reading it.
[00:41:06] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:41:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: So good.
[00:41:08] Speaker H: Yeah.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: You haven't read it yet, Kara. You'll love it, guys.
[00:41:12] Speaker F: Like, I was getting excited and almost frustrated when I would do the hiccups on the giants words in bfg. I was like, but I've read so many good reviews on the lessons in chemistry, and I'm struggling with a children's.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: Book to pronounce everybody Schlopper. Schlagen.
[00:41:32] Speaker H: That's.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:34] Speaker C: Was there good Buck?
[00:41:35] Speaker A: We're not talking about it, Virginia.
No, it's fine. It's just that the giant talks in a very funny, unique way and it's a lot of made up words. So it was like mentally laborious to try to. Both Sarah and I read it aloud to our kids.
[00:41:51] Speaker C: Oh, cute.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: And so it was like, like a bounce waterly time.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: And they're like, what does that mean? I'm like, it means nothing.
[00:42:01] Speaker E: We're moving on.
[00:42:02] Speaker D: Nothing.
[00:42:03] Speaker C: I started replacing the words. Words.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: He's having a lovely time.
[00:42:08] Speaker E: Good idea.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: It just felt like overkill. Like, it's okay. Cool. Yeah. He says things funny, but he like, literally said literally, like, everything funny.
[00:42:18] Speaker F: Right.
[00:42:18] Speaker C: Gotcha.
[00:42:19] Speaker F: That's so it.
[00:42:20] Speaker H: Neat idea, though. Other one is like something a little bit different.
[00:42:22] Speaker A: It was unique. It's like, it's what makes him endearing for sure. But.
[00:42:28] Speaker F: But it's also the thing that I didn't realize until we talked about it out loud is how important cadence and rhythm and flow is for a reader in order to be immersed into the world that the author has created. I had no idea that it was so important. But for all three of us, those little bits of having to, like, use the brain and be like, what does that.
[00:42:51] Speaker E: Where.
[00:42:51] Speaker F: How do you pronounce that? What does that mean? You can't get into it.
[00:42:55] Speaker G: Right.
[00:42:56] Speaker F: It's almost like using different parts of your brain.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Well, it was also funny too, because just as we were saying that I like the character. I don't necessarily want to play the character. Character. You know, like it. Right. Like, so same thing with like Romeo and Juliet. Right. Like, I might love that story, but do I want to like doth thou window light like, no, I don't. I want someone else to tell it to me.
[00:43:18] Speaker C: Right.
[00:43:19] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:43:19] Speaker A: So, yeah.
[00:43:20] Speaker H: I don't like marrying it's your kids is what you're saying.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: Okay. So let's do Audacity and get to this game.
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